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Mid to Long Range Discussion ~ 2024


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26 minutes ago, TARHEELPROGRAMMER88 said:

GFS may be about to cave to the northern solution? Looks a tad higher and less cold air at 108 hours.

Yes, for us on the southern edge, it's definitely looking slightly warmer. When I say slightly, it's miniscule. 

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Although very slightly more amped and north early, it's actually weakening and shearing out faster on approach as the block presses on it. There's not really much room for a big northern trend. I think the Euro is probably fairly close to the northern edge of the forecast envelope as long as the block and 50/50 are locked in. 

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1 hour ago, SnowDawg said:

Fwiw the 12z Euro AI still had the Miller A on the 10th. Albeit, light for most of the board outside of the deep south/coast with the track down around Orlando, but it's not like NW trends are uncommon either. 

Based on thicknesses (546 is usually snow line in SE), 850 mb temp anoms, and qpf (2m are too warm), that’s actually likely a major (3-7”) snowstorm on the 12Z Euro AI with the NW extent of the 3” Columbus to Macon to Augusta to Fayetteville to Greenville, NC, with ~5-7” from NC coast down to ~Charleston.

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Based on the 18z euro I'd say timing is just as big a factor as North/South. The waves aren't tracking all that different but the faster euro has more room to amplify, less time for the CAD to build in, and precip starts during the warmest part of the day instead of overnight/early morning.

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48 minutes ago, BornAgain13 said:

Good news on the 18z Euro. It did trend south from 0z. Lines up fairly close to the 18z GFS

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On the one hand -NAO should continue to kick south. On the other hand, the last minute North trend is real. I think this map represents kinda the expected outcome with lots of uncertainty north or south. Of course plenty of opportunity for sleet or ZR south of that snow map

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