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Mid to Long Range Discussion ~ 2024


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15 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 Folks, the new 0Z GEFS actually looks nice as early as Dec 30th and is the best looking that early in at least 4 days of runs. Progression is really good to see.

 And the 0Z EPS is a real beaut!

I sure hope so. Been waiting a long time for a shot a winter weather. Hope it comes to fruition. Always enjoy reading your posts. Merry Christmas.

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 BAMWx:

This type of pattern flip coming for the new year will take some time for the cold to bleed in so be patient.

The nice thing about a setup like this is we’re not getting flooded with Arctic air and shutting off the storm chances. Should be ideal for snow lovers too. 

Cold bleeds in…

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9 hours ago, WinstonSalemArlington said:

Jumpin January 

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 The week 3/4 outlook website has a great archive section. I just took a look at all winter week 3/4 outlooks since they started 2015-6. I can confirm that today’s, with all but the S 1/2 of FL in 60-70% BN chances, is easily THE coldest week 3/4 outlook for the SE as a whole for Jan on record! 

  The 2nd coldest for Jan was issued for Jan 16-29, 2016:

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 1/16-29/2016 verified very well with the solid cold of 4-6 BN. Also, there was a major winter storm N GA/Carolinas. In addition, flurries fell as far S as Gainesville, FL. (I was there) @pcbjr

 Could the SE, including Deep South, have a similarly cold and wintry two week period to 1/16-29/2016? Based on today’s coldest week 3/4 forecast on record for Jan, the extended models, Dec cold/strong +PNA analogs, and a decent chance to have an MJO largely near or inside the circle starting on left side, I wouldn’t at all discount this possibility. Could this finally be when the widespread SE major winter storm drought ends??

 Was this the coldest week 3/4 outlook on record for the SE for ALL met winter from an absolutes standpoint? There’s only one other that can compare, the one for 2/9-22/2019 (see below). But that one was for a period with avg normals ~3F warmer than those pertaining to today’s week 3/4 outlook. Thus, I’d say today’s is the coldest week 3/4 outlook for the SE on record in terms of implied absolutes being forecasted for all met. winter!

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There's also the 11 year solar lag response for NAO,AO.Also affects the Aleutian Low

Doesn't guarantee cold other things have to be included as QBO,ENSO,and MJO and where they are.

On average for eastern/central N America

Lag 0 year-warm

Lag 1 year -warm

Lag 2 year -warm

Lag 3 year warm

Lag 4 year- cold  (here now)

Lag 5 year- cold

Lag 6 year-cold

Lag 7 year -cold

Lag 8 year-cold

Lag 9 year- neutral to cold

Lag 10 year-warm

Lag 11 year -warm

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