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19 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

What's with the frost warning tonight in Orange County? The entire county saw a freeze to hard freeze in some places last week. Why would a frost advisory even be necessary?

Good point, we’ve had a frost advisory and a freeze warning last week. To the best of my knowledge, once you have a freeze warning, there were no additional advisories issued. The freeze warning basically states that the growing season has ended.

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8 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

What's with the frost warning tonight in Orange County? The entire county saw a freeze to hard freeze in some places last week. Why would a frost advisory even be necessary?

 

8 hours ago, hudsonvalley21 said:

Good point, we’ve had a frost advisory and a freeze warning last week. To the best of my knowledge, once you have a freeze warning, there were no additional advisories issued. The freeze warning basically states that the growing season has ended.

https://www.weather.gov/media/okx/FrostFreeze/OKX_Frost_Freeze_24_handout.pdf

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10 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

The logical follow-up question is of course the following. Has the first frost, freeze and hard freeze ever occurred on the same date?

Low of 31 here this morning. As to your question, using the NWS definition of first frost (low of 36-32) no it hasn't. Using my first visible frost records then yes, I recorded all three on the same date on 10/13/2012 with a low of 27. The NWS first frost that season was 10/12/2012 with 33 at 11:49pm. So all four did happen on the same night. 

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Between the .01 last night and the following 7 hours of fog the things that are still growing got very happy. The lawn is lush, soft and green, the tomatoes and berries are flowering and putting on new fruit and the bees came back :) Unfortunately so did the mosquitoes :( 75° with a thin overcast. I'll take it!

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On 10/17/2024 at 7:21 AM, IrishRob17 said:

Looks like 28.5 will do it for the low, oh the pain LOL

 

On 10/17/2024 at 10:44 AM, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

29.1 here. I'm tempted to falsify the records by 0.7 degrees just to achieve the elusive first freeze/hard freeze on the same day. I could not live with that 28.5, would ruin my whole week. 

As I was updating my spreadsheet I realized that I did hit 28 on 10/17, so that goes down as my first hard freeze. The reason for the discrepancy is that I was out of town and looking at my Davis WeatherLink online which archives every 5 minutes but the console refreshes at a much smaller rate, every 2.5 seconds. I use the console for all of my records. So while I hit 28 for under five minutes that is the low temp that goes in the books. 

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13 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

 

As I was updating my spreadsheet I realized that I did hit 28 on 10/17, so that goes down as my first hard freeze. The reason for the discrepancy is that I was out of town and looking at my Davis WeatherLink online which archives every 5 minutes but the console refreshes at a much smaller rate, every 2.5 seconds. I use the console for all of my records. So while I hit 28 for under five minutes that is the low temp that goes in the books. 

What does it say about me that I'm actually elated to hear you made the 28 that day. I need to get a life. 

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On 11/2/2024 at 6:43 AM, IrishRob17 said:

 

As I was updating my spreadsheet I realized that I did hit 28 on 10/17, so that goes down as my first hard freeze. The reason for the discrepancy is that I was out of town and looking at my Davis WeatherLink online which archives every 5 minutes but the console refreshes at a much smaller rate, every 2.5 seconds. I use the console for all of my records. So while I hit 28 for under five minutes that is the low temp that goes in the books. 

 

On 11/2/2024 at 8:47 AM, gravitylover said:

And I just keep rolling along without getting close to a freeze and with only one or maybe two frosts. I had fresh strawberries on my waffle this morning! :)

 

On 11/2/2024 at 7:53 PM, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

What does it say about me that I'm actually elated to hear you made the 28 that day. I need to get a life. 

Good evening Irish , Gravity, CPcms. The Accu Weather 45 day long range, for my portion of the sub tropic coastal plain, goes out to December 16th. Its lowest minimum for the balance of November is 34 and for December 33. If the present trends continue it may take Santa to end the growing season in the postage stamp. Now, my friends, you know how much of a life I have if I’m looking at a 45 day long range forcast. Stay well all, as always …

 

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On 11/2/2024 at 8:26 PM, rclab said:

 

 

Good evening Irish , Gravity, COcms. The Accu Weather 45 day long range, for my portion of the sub tropic coastal plain, goes out to December 16th. Its lowest minimum for the balance of November is 34 and for December 33. If the present trends continue it may take Santa to end the growing season in the postage stamp. Now, my friends, you know how much of a life I have if I’m looking at a 45 day long range forcast. Stay well all, as always …

 

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Love the new abbreviation for my screen name Rich. CPCMS much easier. 

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3 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I'd take 12/6 and 12/8 at this rate. A God awful pattern so far for early Winter lovers. 

I’ll take the bad pattern now for something better in the heart of winter.  I mean, I’d never turn down snow but 40s and rain doesn’t do anybody any good.

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