hawkeye_wx Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Even at only 35º, our snow is wasting no time getting the melt started. The driveways and sidewalks are now clean, there is a lot of dripping, and the deep snow in the backyard has really softened up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Gonna be a foggy couple nights, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Note to self. Next time a record cold or snowy streak occurs, DO NOT mention this. He will go off the rails. True, it was baity I guess. Wx extremes are very cool, hot or cold. But GW fanatics only like to point out the hot stuff, and call the rest just normal fare. Wx weenies love both. And yes, it will be a warmer end to the month for our region, especially in the N. And last winter was a record snow year for many areas around me, but this year has swung to the opposite, so far anyway. It can swing really quick around here. 2012/13 is one example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 0.8" fell throughout the early am-early pm today. Mellow, mild wx on tap for the rest of the week. Don't mind a bit, but would like to see a good ol' fashioned blizzard at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, Brian D said: True, it was baity I guess. Wx extremes are very cool, hot or cold. But GW fanatics only like to point out the hot stuff, and call the rest just normal fare. Wx weenies love both. And yes, it will be a warmer end to the month for our region, especially in the N. And last winter was a record snow year for many areas around me, but this year has swung to the opposite, so far anyway. It can swing really quick around here. 2012/13 is one example. Agree on all counts. Its like inappropriate touching to the fanatics to point out cold/snow extremes. No one is denying climate change, but the Great Lakes/Midwest is a region with cold winters/hot summers, so most winters, no matter how "warm" they are in the mean, will have some cold/snow stories to be had. And quite honestly, back to the graph chinook posted, I am quite surprised what a bout of deep winter this region saw for a strong Nino. I knew we would have cold shots and snow while some were on a ledge in December, but did not foresee a blast like that. Hoping some more fun is had in Feb/Mar. So much of the season to go, but year-to-year rubber-band snaps can be wild. Locally, there were insane ones from 1880-81 to 1881-82, 1917-18 to 1918-19, and 1981-82 to 1982-83. But the 5 year period from 1877-1882 was downright wild. 1877-78: warm 1878-79: cold 1879-80: warm 1880-81: cold 1881-82: warm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 32 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Agree on all counts. Its like inappropriate touching to the fanatics to point out cold/snow extremes. No one is denying climate change, but the Great Lakes/Midwest is a region with cold winters/hot summers, so most winters, no matter how "warm" they are in the mean, will have some cold/snow stories to be had. And quite honestly, back to the graph chinook posted, I am quite surprised what a bout of deep winter this region saw for a strong Nino. I knew we would have cold shots and snow while some were on a ledge in December, but did not foresee a blast like that. Hoping some more fun is had in Feb/Mar. So much of the season to go, but year-to-year rubber-band snaps can be wild. Locally, there were insane ones from 1880-81 to 1881-82, 1917-18 to 1918-19, and 1981-82 to 1982-83. But the 5 year period from 1877-1882 was downright wild. 1877-78: warm 1878-79: cold 1879-80: warm 1880-81: cold 1881-82: warm No. Those winters were all cold. The warm ones you listed were due to rooftop temperatures. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Agree on all counts. Its like inappropriate touching to the fanatics to point out cold/snow extremes. No one is denying climate change, but the Great Lakes/Midwest is a region with cold winters/hot summers, so most winters, no matter how "warm" they are in the mean, will have some cold/snow stories to be had. And quite honestly, back to the graph chinook posted, I am quite surprised what a bout of deep winter this region saw for a strong Nino. I knew we would have cold shots and snow while some were on a ledge in December, but did not foresee a blast like that. Hoping some more fun is had in Feb/Mar. So much of the season to go, but year-to-year rubber-band snaps can be wild. Locally, there were insane ones from 1880-81 to 1881-82, 1917-18 to 1918-19, and 1981-82 to 1982-83. But the 5 year period from 1877-1882 was downright wild. 1877-78: warm 1878-79: cold 1879-80: warm 1880-81: cold 1881-82: warm That whole stretch from the 1877-78 Nino all the way until like 1890 was just a wild 15 years in the Midwest. Madison had a similar snap back and forth in record warm and record cold winters in that stretch. Including what was likely our snowiest winter ever in 1880-81 if the precip totals from melted snow are to be believed. Also 1880-1885 was our wettest 5 year stretch ever until arguably 2015-2020, with what is probably one of if not the biggest flood in state history in June 1880. The Wisconsin River had a flow of over 100,000CFS at Wisconsin Rapids, the only gauge with records that far back. Later on 1887-88 was a record snowy year further north in Green Bay, where they recorded almost 150" of snow that winter, and then followed up with 120" two years later in 1889-90. The next snowiest year is "only" 93.5" in 2010-11. We really didn't have a crazy stretch like that again in regards to precip and snowfall totals and whiplash really until the late 2000s, and its been like that ever since. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, Geoboy645 said: That whole stretch from the 1877-78 Nino all the way until like 1890 was just a wild 15 years in the Midwest. Madison had a similar snap back and forth in record warm and record cold winters in that stretch. Including what was likely our snowiest winter ever in 1880-81 if the precip totals from melted snow are to be believed. Also 1880-1885 was our wettest 5 year stretch ever until arguably 2015-2020, with what is probably one of if not the biggest flood in state history in June 1880. The Wisconsin River had a flow of over 100,000CFS at Wisconsin Rapids, the only gauge with records that far back. Later on 1887-88 was a record snowy year further north in Green Bay, where they recorded almost 150" of snow that winter, and then followed up with 120" two years later in 1889-90. The next snowiest year is "only" 93.5" in 2010-11. We really didn't have a crazy stretch like that again in regards to precip and snowfall totals and whiplash really until the late 2000s, and its been like that ever since. I should do a post on that stretch and research some more. That's insane about 1889-90 as it was warm and snowless here. This is on my to-do list lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomp2mp Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 super foggy here, PTK is down to 1/8SM, DTW & Willow Run 1/4SM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Funny how fast your body acclimates to cold temps, these 35 degree temps have me in a hoodie lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Largest dense fog advisory in US history? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 38 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Largest dense fog advisory in US history? It's soupy for sure 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 yeah loving the dense fog deep snowpack with calm winds, warm temps and thick fog is underrated wx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 A different kind of “White Out” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Thank you Iowa for the dense snowpack, letting us get in on the freezing fog too. Almost busted my ass walking in the parking lot this morning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, stormtrucker said: Fog during the day, roads turning to ice at night. Rinse and repeat next 7 days before it gets real warm. Can I find you on Intragram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Fog thicc in the paign 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2024 at 3:38 AM, nwohweather said: Largest dense fog advisory in US history? It is certainly this is an interesting question. Another thing related to this: As of recent years, I heard advisories are going to be phased out of the NWS entirely 2024. But it's 2024 now. I wonder if somebody can comment on that Toledo had pea-soup fog with rain or drizzle in a lot of hours today Quote KTOL 241329Z AUTO 06004KT 1/4SM R25/3500VP6000FT -RA FG BKN017 OVC032 03/02 A3022 RMK AO2 P0004 T00280017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNstorms Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2024 at 9:38 PM, nwohweather said: Largest dense fog advisory in US history? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, Chinook said: It is certainly this is an interesting question. Another thing related to this: As of recent years, I heard advisories are going to be phased out of the NWS entirely 2024. But it's 2024 now. I wonder if somebody can comment on that Toledo had pea-soup fog with rain or drizzle in a lot of hours today The last update I received advised that this year will be dedicated to outreach and training and the earliest that it will be implemented (phased in) is early next year. We had the same weather down here at FWA yesterday, which annihilated the snowpack and it still around this morning. It may stay around most of the day, but lift this evening as the next system moves in, which could drop another 1/2-3/4" of rain. The rivers around here are already running high and this could send a couple into flood. There are also a couple of rivers downstate with ice jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 hours ago, Chinook said: It is certainly this is an interesting question. Another thing related to this: As of recent years, I heard advisories are going to be phased out of the NWS entirely 2024. But it's 2024 now. I wonder if somebody can comment on that Toledo had pea-soup fog with rain or drizzle in a lot of hours today I thought that was just for WWAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 snowpack about gone at ORD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Visibility down below a 1/4 mile now. Some of my favorite working conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 7 hours ago, Powerball said: I thought that was just for WWAs? @PowerballNope, it's for almost all advisories and all special weather statements. They will become "plain language headlines." Here is an overview of the changes: https://www.weather.gov/hazardsimplification/revampprogress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, IWXwx said: @PowerballNope, it's for almost all advisories and all special weather statements. They will become "plain language headlines." Here is an overview of the changes: https://www.weather.gov/hazardsimplification/revampprogress Bad idea in my opinion. It’s more simple to know there’s a Winter Weather Advisory than issuing headlines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Pretty soon we will be back to Travelers Advisories 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, IWXwx said: @PowerballNope, it's for almost all advisories and all special weather statements. They will become "plain language headlines." Here is an overview of the changes: https://www.weather.gov/hazardsimplification/revampprogress I remember when a WWA became the simplified headline for Snow and Freezing Rain Advisories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Pretty excited for deformation band rain in the dead of winter. Gross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 10 hours ago, Powerball said: I remember when a WWA became the simplified headline for Snow and Freezing Rain Advisories. I blame it on the dumbing down of society 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, IWXwx said: I blame it on the dumbing down of society Yep!! Pretty soon it will become a WWHT ... Weather Will Happen Today alert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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