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Jan Medium/Long Range Disco: Winter is coming


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Just now, clskinsfan said:

Yeah it's roasting at 850. But it is an outlier with the setup going in. Just gotta hope it's wrong

 

Is it still a precursor to the euro lol?

It seems like it's wrong alot in regards to winter storms for us. Ussually the opposite though as in years past its given false hope when other models went to shit.

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13 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Spending too much time parsing the Canadian but interesting how more modest WxBell is

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When Wxbell and SV differ, usually Wxbell is right.  In this case, I don't think SV's canadian is run at the same resolution so it's coarser.

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8 minutes ago, SnowDreamer said:

GEFS very boom or bust, I'll take P23 with a side of P28

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I count at least 17 out of 30 that give me more than 6” I’ll take for nearly 5 days out. Always look boom or bust this far away .

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1 hour ago, Ji said:

this is exactly why i was so nervous a few days when the Jan 7 storm looked like it might be heading towards the toilet. We would be at zero inches by January 15th for the winter with nothing in sight for the most part. We would have been relaying then on a HECS to save winter. Getting this storm is really really really critical

In a Nino we can go on a run fast if things line up.   

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23 minutes ago, Deck Pic said:

When Wxbell and SV differ, usually Wxbell is right.  In this case, I don't think SV's canadian is run at the same resolution so it's coarser.

The SV doesn’t differentiate between ice and snow. It’s counting the freezing rain at 10-1. Doesn’t matter the Canadian thermals are ridiculous. Colder at the surface and a torch in the mids. 

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We are very likely going to get another jet extension mid January. That’s good!  Yes it’s going to torch Canada. Also good, they’re very warm (by their standards) during almost all of our big Nino snow blitzes.  It’s not December anymore. An extended jet in January has set up most of our Nino snowstorms!
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I’m putting this here now because If we end up being too warm I don’t want to hear it’s because of the pacific jet.  Yes the pac jet will extend and crash into the west coast. Yes it will flood Canada with pac puke. But with blocking and a split flow stj systems should slide under and in the past there was enough domestic cold to snow here. That’s the game plan. Not to have Canada be some icebox and advect that cold here. That’s not how we get big snow events in a Nino. 

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1 minute ago, Deck Pic said:

The euro is beautiful y'all....slower, colder, slightly less moist

 

1 minute ago, brooklynwx99 said:

ECMWF is coming south

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I didn’t want to overstate it. I’ve make early observations then a run went sideways.  But very early on it looked better over the top. Better confluence. Colder antecedent airmass. 

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Just now, psuhoffman said:

 

I didn’t want to overstate it. I’ve make early observations then a run went sideways.  But very early on it looked better over the top. Better confluence. Colder antecedent airmass. 

This is what a flatter, colder, slower storm looks like.  It's really better for almost everyone.  The usual folks will still win

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