psuhoffman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, wxmvpete said: Yep. We get to work remotely a couple times a pay period. But otherwise, I commute to College Park. On a great day, I can get here in just over 1 hour. My wife works in the Hereford Zone and my in-laws live near Freeland. So it's closer to family and my wife's job which is what we wanted (originally lived near Sykesville). Farther drive for me, but I remind myself on those 90+ minute commutes home that the house/price was worth it, and living at 1,000ft will occasionally have its perks in winter. I commute from Manchester to Baltimore 4 days a week so it’s not much better. A lot of the same reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 39 minutes ago, notvirga! said: I lived in Winchester Va/frederick county for all the big ones since 83 but I was only 2 in 83. March 93 is still my favorite snowstorm—Snowed in at my grandmothers house in the rural part of the county—we stayed there because she had a wood stove. The wind, the duration, the snow drifts were all unreal. Remember taking a night walk with my dad down our dirt road in the peak of the blizzard; there was an abandoned s-10 pickup amidst the drifts. Jan 2016 is the most snow I’ve ever seen. I’m told Feb 83 was to the 2016 numbers at my parents house. PD 2 was the coldest I remember. Feb 83 was the most intense storm in this area. Ever. Nothing comes close. 96 and 2016 (in the Northern part of the area) rival the total accumulations, but 83 did it in basically 14 hours. 32" measured in Warren County. In 14 hours! At the height, rates were 4 - 5 inches per hour with thundersnow. Nothing has come close to that intensity since. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 '96 was my favorite but I'm young. I like the colder dry snows and legit blizzard conditions. I feel like they should happen more often. It's important to remember that since 1998, the -PNA has been the pattern as much as 62/38, so it's something cyclical, and not like GW-driven. We've had a La Nina base state almost 2:1. I personally think right now, in this little bit of time, +NAO and +PNA is our best potential pattern for snowfall, The W->E (anomaly) nature of the pattern is moreso than N->S, and +nao's are wetter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, notvirga! said: It may well have been 40 inches or close to it. I lived in the city of Winchester and it was the closest I’ve seen to three feet and that’s snow depth not snowfall accumulation. And I am NW of town at elevation. It was insanity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 This is the one that is sort of a sleeper in the all time greats, at least over here. An overperformer even though the forecast was for a major snowstorm. Ended up with 16"+ and lots of drifting. Pure powder storm. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 38 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: While you dry slotted we deformed for hours and hours on end. Yep along 81 was shallacked for hours. I believe I had over 40" at the M/D just east of 81. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notvirga! Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: Feb 83 was the most intense storm in this area. Ever. Nothing comes close. 96 and 2016 (in the Northern part of the area) rival the total accumulations, but 83 did it in basically 14 hours. 32" measured in Warren County. In 14 hours! At the height, rates were 4 - 5 inches per hour with thundersnow. Nothing has come close to that intensity since. I remember reading an article I think in the Winchester star about it a few years back. Apparently abandoned vehicles everywhere because the snow fell so hard and fast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 26 minutes ago, Weather Will said: February '79 was very memorable to me for several reasons: one it's the first big storm that I remember where the forecast the night before was calling for nothing and we received over 2 feet; about 11 years old looked out the window that am from my second story window screaming and waking my parents and two younger brothers up because I thought the car had been stolen ( it was buried under a snow drift!!!); I had the whole week off from school, stuff like that does not happen anymore. Ah 1979! I was in northern Calvert and it's my best ever - even beating all my MontCo events (1996, 2003, 2010 and 2016). It was like a hurricane of snow with easily 30 inches with 6-foot drifts. There was a period where we could not see the woods 50 feet behind the house and got 6" in one hour. Wind gusts 60-plus. I was there for 1983 - dry slot got us. Missed 1987 in FL. 1993 was a gut punch with 6" then driving rain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 42 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: Good post.. It's just too warm. Because the source is in the N. Pacific ocean, the odds of a favorable trend to the end are pretty low (the region doesn't fluctuate as much). Add to the fact that this Pacific region has hooked up with a SE ridge more than normal over the past few Winters (despite -NAO) and you have a real "problem". Jan correlation is also +53%. This may end up raining all the way to State College. In the end of the 18z GEFS we have that strong -PNA look, and it's a pretty good anomaly projection for 15-16 days away on the mean.. linking with now a trough over the NW and it's going to take at least a little time to move away from that pattern. It's not going to snow in that pattern I think. My analogs showed that when we have a dominant PNA that changes, we hang warm for a few days after. I've said Jan 20th before something favorable develops, but it could be later. The gefs looks like hot garbage at the end. You are right if the gefs is correct after this threat hit or miss were likely punting until Feb. But do you belief the gefs over the geps and eps both of which show a very different look day 15-16 with heights already lowering west of AK and the pattern over N America better to begin with. Why choose the statistically worse guidance when it’s alone? Persistence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, CAPE said: This is the one that is sort of a sleeper in the all time greats, at least over here. An overperformer even though the forecast was for a major snowstorm. Ended up with 16"+ and lots of drifting. Pure powder storm. Fringed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 39 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: But do you belief the gefs over the geps and eps both of which show a very different look day 15-16 with heights already lowering west of AK and the pattern over N America better to begin with. Why choose the statistically worse guidance when it’s alone? Persistence? The EPS showed us getting snow a lot last year. I think they had a few long range patterns with +PNA and -EPO but it might be because they are based on '91-20 normals. I'm sorry for going against the majority, but I don't think the EPS is that great. I think its idea comes solely from demand (good ECMWF model). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 83 was awesome wrt dynamics and rates. 96 is probably my fave. Lived 2 miles from PHL airport where they do official measurements and I can confirm ~30"....no dry slot no mixing. 2016 is close....~29" here just N of Philly but we dry slotted and mixed for a chunk. If no slot/mix that would easily have been #1. 93 was meh (again near PHL airport). Around a foot. Location, location, location. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1996 is the king. End discussion. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ3 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 29 minutes ago, BlizzardNole said: Ah 1979! I was in northern Calvert and it's my best ever - even beating all my MontCo events (1996, 2003, 2010 and 2016). It was like a hurricane of snow with easily 30 inches with 6-foot drifts. There was a period where we could not see the woods 50 feet behind the house and got 6" in one hour. Wind gusts 60-plus. I was there for 1983 - dry slot got us. Missed 1987 in FL. 1993 was a gut punch with 6" then driving rain I don’t post much but seem to comment once a year about February ‘79 so will do so again. If for no other reason I was around to see it and many on here are younger. But it is the reason I participate in this odd hobby. On the hours at dawn and after, I had never seen it snow with such intensity and to this very day, I still have not. Not even close honestly. And have been here for every major event since then except January 1982. It is indelibly etched in my memory forever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 My personal favorite adult experience was the 2010 twin blizzards. I’ve never seen that much snow in this part of the world. Over 50 inches on the ground. My wife was pregnant at the time and our heat went out during the second storm. Luckily, the sun came out the next day and the heat came back on.Best childhood memory was the blizzard of ‘93. It was during my senior year of high school. Went to bed with a thunderstorm and temps in the 50s. Work up to 15 inches of snow blowing up against the front door. There was also a huge accumulation of sleet under the snow. Amazing storm! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, anotherman said: My personal favorite adult experience was the 2010 twin blizzards. I’ve never seen that much snow in this part of the world. Over 50 inches on the ground. My wife was pregnant at the time and our heat went out during the second storm. Luckily, the sun came out the next day and the heat came back on. Best childhood memory was the blizzard of ‘93. It was during my senior year of high school. Went to bed with a thunderstorm and temps in the 50s. Work up to 15 inches of snow blowing up against the front door. There was also a huge accumulation of sleet under the snow. Amazing storm! I don’t think anyone here can handle my favorite adult experience. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I don’t think anyone here can handle my favorite adult experience. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 46 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: The EPS showed us getting snow a lot last year. I think they had a few long range patterns with +PNA and -EPO but it might be because they are based on '91-20 normals. I'm sorry for going against the majority, but I don't think the EPS is that great. I think its idea comes solely from demand (good ECMWF model). EPS scores significantly better than gefs at day 10 verification scores. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Well... good start to the night as 00z ICON holds and looks a little bit colder 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Icon is a DC and southeast snow. Definitely the most souther of the globals. Looks cold. Snow down into Central Va Edit: Yoda beat me to it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 March 13 1993. It snowed much of the night, an inch per hour we had 8 inches of pure snow on the ground, then it changed to sleet, very heavy sleet, that hurt , because the sleet balls were so large! Then Ugh. It changed to rain, that became heavy, and it POURED for hours! Then it mixed with sleet later, then with snow, then went over to all snow. The 8 inches that fell earlier froze up, and three more inches of snow blew around on top of the glacier. Anyone from Dale City remember Godwin Middle? The back of it was like a miniature ski resort. The hill was icy as all hell, I had this old beat up plastic sled, I was sliding down that glacier amid the strong winds swirling falling snow and wind blown snow off the ice all around! I must have slid down that thing fifty times! It was so damned COLD, with that wind! It was so fast, that ice hill, and really sharp, if you didnt have gloves you got cut up something terrible! IF only we had stayed all snow! I heard some of the mountains got three feet of snow with monstrous drifts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Chris78 said: Icon is a DC and southeast snow. Definitely the most souther of the globals. Looks cold. Snow down into Central Va Edit: Yoda beat me to it Right where we want it at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 96 is probably tops for me (around 3 ft in Staunton) but 93… man, we will never see a storm like that again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said: Happy New Year! (was just wondering whether you still posted here...though I can't blame you for not, lol) It’s been a while since there was much to talk about here. As for the weekend storm I’m a bit cautious about the cities and close suburbs (though I hope I’m wrong!), but ski country seems to have a very good chance so I’m really looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 93 was insane… heavy snow in northern FL, 50+” in the mountains of NC, VA, and WV, blizzard conditions from GA to ME. We got about 20” of wind driven snow and hours of white out conditions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, pazzo83 said: 93 was insane… heavy snow in northern FL, 50+” in the mountains of NC, VA, and WV, blizzard conditions from GA to ME. We got about 20” of wind driven snow and hours of white out conditions When National Geographic runs a 1 hour special on the storm and interviews Barb Watson, you know it was a solid event. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I wish I was old enough to remember 1993 and 1996 better. I do vaguely remember the insane drifts from Jan 1996 but I was so young at the time. Feb 2010 was definitely the all-timer with the two back-to-back blizzards. Jan 2016 comes close. And then PDII and Dec 2009 and the whole 2013-14 winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Anyone remember the ice storms of 1994? I forget the dates now, but freezing rain at 19 degrees that changed to sleet, and then that sleet poured and poured down, three inches worth then it glaciated. It was a real challenge to walk on that stuff. It would hit 45 degrees and would hardly melt. There was another ice storm, I think this one started as snow, 1-2 inches also in 1994, then it changed to sleet then just plain freezing rain, that fell most of that night, it piled up about an inch deep. Then it fell to about 6 degrees and froze that glacier nice and tight. I dont think anyone was walking much that morning after. It was slippery as heck, even I was having trouble trying to walk on that sheer ice sheet. For us, 1994 was the winter of the Ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I was too young to appreciate ‘83, but I do remember being in awe at the amount of snow on our patio. To me, 2016 is the king. ‘96 and ‘03 are next up, but there’s some SECS/MECS sleeper picks that were just as enjoyable. For example, Feb 21, ‘15 was an overachieving, quality daytime snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Anyone have the 00z ICON snow map? I'm guessing it's like 2-4 inches lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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