WesternFringe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:26 PM, WEATHER53 said: Observation and 50 year historical record keeping vs clueless and dependents solely upon models. Expand You practically said 25% for each of 4 scenarios, so you have all of your bases covered and the forecast is essentially meaningless, but keep trashing others with ad hominem attacks. eta: ninja’d by NA101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I believe the EURO looks better than the GFS through hr144 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I don't get the GEFS love. It spent all of last winter following the op. Seems like it will do the same this winter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 168 12z Euro has 986 east of ACY... let's see how it gets there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 WB EURO 156, 162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:30 PM, NorthArlington101 said: I believe the EURO looks better than the GFS through hr144Sorry folks, I lied 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:03 PM, EastCoast NPZ said: Don't care if it's rain or snow. Just give me significant precip. Expand Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:36 PM, Weather Will said: WB EURO 156 Expand It is depressing looking at this. So close, yet so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:36 PM, Weather Will said: WB EURO 156, 162 Expand Any notable trends on the euro? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Yah, I won't be staying up for the EURO tonight... 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Maybe we'll get some flakes on the front end, if the cold air dam is decent? Like that one storm a couple years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Man Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:40 PM, Terpeast said: Any notable trends on the euro? Expand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSharkWX Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:40 PM, Terpeast said: Any notable trends on the euro? Expand western trough was weaker and more held back and 50/50 was a lot stronger, big step in right direction we were close 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 It looks fairly different on h5 compared to the GFS to my eyes… still things to figure out. Thats probably the optimistic take. Also the fact that we’ve got 6-7 days to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjvanals Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:42 PM, Paleocene said: Maybe we'll get some flakes on the front end, if the cold air dam is decent? Like that one storm a couple years ago. Expand Yeah I could see this being like the mid Jan 2022 storm as the cold air is a bit stronger out front on the euro vs it’s 0z run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:44 PM, DarkSharkWX said: western trough was weaker and more held back and 50/50 was a lot stronger, big step in right direction we were close Expand Gotcha, thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:44 PM, DarkSharkWX said: western trough was weaker and more held back and 50/50 was a lot stronger, big step in right direction we were closeDid the vort over SD/NE hurt us? It didn’t exist on the GFS. Saw the same things you did and assumed it would be a better run but it wasn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 It’s a bit se of 0z. We have 6/7 days it’s gunna change 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 While euro is a disaster for the 7th. It does have lower heights out ahead of the Southwest wave for Jan 9-11 range . 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSharkWX Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:45 PM, NorthArlington101 said: Did the vort over SD/NE hurt us? It didn’t exist on the GFS. Saw the same things you did and assumed it would be a better run but it wasn’t Expand nah i doubt so, this was a better run and snow came a lot closer to coast, just W of fall line verabritm gets frontend snow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The trends are obvious. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Dust yourselves off and start watching the next one....WB 12Z EURO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:46 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: The trends are obvious. Expand Yes the 6/7 day out trends lol. next run could be over Bermuda 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 A lot stronger HP out ahead of long range event . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:28 PM, WesternFringe said: You practically said 25% for each of 4 scenarios, so you have all of your bases covered and the forecast is essentially meaningless, but keep trashing others with ad hominem attacks. eta: ninja’d by NA101 Expand lol maybe our weather can be described by a uniform distribution 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:46 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: The trends are obvious.Only took you a few hours to agree. Heh . 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:02 PM, Daniel Boone said: Yeah, trending that way. Appears to be a weakness there up the eastern OV. Expand Yea, there's a return flow later in the week around the hp that moves through the region and doesn't appear to be a strong enough hp building in from the north to offset that. It almost seems like it's a good setup as far as H-L positioning, but too far north and west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 6:36 PM, NorthArlington101 said: Sorry folks, I lied Expand Main issue was that the southwest causing the storm was just way stronger on this run, if that was even a little bit weaker it probably would've turned out far better. At least thats what I saw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The next super long range storm on the Euro is looking intense ... not sure if thats intense good or bad yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/31/2023 at 4:22 PM, brooklynwx99 said: you guys are going to be a hot mess if you lean on the OP runs this much. follow the ensembles. I wouldn't even say there's been a trend towards one solution or the other, we have another model cycle before anything like that can be said Expand Are going to be? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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