WinterWolf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: tuesday. the GFS shifted significantly towards the ECMWF's handling of the event. it lets vorticity move out ahead, establishing more confluence. then, it trails energy that tries to amplify into the confluence. this is what the ECMWF does Ahh ok..you added to this post, so it seems like this would be conducive for an even better surface reflection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 34 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ahh ok..you added to this post, so it seems like this would be conducive for an even better surface reflection. yes it is. also allows colder air to actually stick around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 https://easternmassweather.blogspot.com/2024/01/mild-wind-swept-rains-this-weekend.html 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Weenies crossed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavwtby Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah I didn't include 1993 since I was only really listing since 2000....we were close to 30" depth that month too in ORH, but never topped it. Hard to do late season (unless it's March 2001, lol....that year was on another level). what about April 97, although short lived and before 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Ranges from 2-3" left at my house. Down from a peak depth of 18". Full coverage, though...only grass is under and around the pine tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Torch Tiger said: That's actually fairly mild 850s, if you check anomalies they'll be +5 ish maybe a bit higher Do you have a climo chart? Purples on our side of the pole have been lacking until quite recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 12 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Ranges from 2-3" left at my house. Down from a peak depth of 18". Full coverage, though...only grass is under and around the pine tree. depth ranging from 4 to 10 here should be mostly gone with the next storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 17 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: depth ranging from 4 to 10 here should be mostly gone with the next storm How much did you get? Bare ground headed into last weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: How much did you get? Bare ground headed into last weekend? 1.75 with the last storm 15.5 or so with the storm before BTW parts of the basement flooded 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 We’ve got a solid foot of water logged snowpack on the ground… the water runnel patterns are like a topographic map in the snowpack too. This event surprised me. Local observer had 7.3” on 0.90” water in town before it went over to all rain. Solid net gain in SWE, while increasing depth by several inches. Hopefully another attempt at building a true snowpack. The last multi-week attempt got wiped out by the December flood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, tavwtby said: what about April 97, although short lived and before 2000 Don’t think we ever had more than about 29-30” OTG even though the storm total was 33”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 29 minutes ago, powderfreak said: We’ve got a solid foot of water logged snowpack on the ground… the water runnel patterns are like a topographic map in the snowpack too. This event surprised me. Local observer had 7.3” on 0.90” water in town before it went over to all rain. Solid net gain in SWE, while increasing depth by several inches. Hopefully another attempt at building a true snowpack. The last multi-week attempt got wiped out by the December flood. This event got better and better for NNE and elevations in CNE and CAD hub in Conway area basically until go time Impressed How long the General Conway - Madison - Glen corridor held on for 10-11” . They do heavy wet snows of 10-12 inches there pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: This event got better and better for NNE and elevations in CNE and CAD hub in Conway area basically until go time Impressed How long the General Conway - Madison - Glen corridor held on for 10-11” . They do heavy wet snows of 10-12 inches there pretty well I think it’s even more impressive that an area so prone to downsloping as mine got 12”. That front end meant business, and the cold air hung on remarkably well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, alex said: I think it’s even more impressive that an area so prone to downsloping as mine got 12”. That front end meant business, and the cold air hung on remarkably well Agreed . I thought Bretton woods was gonna have like 5-6” . Maybe you benefited from more of a SSE/SE flow than SE/ESE ? You mentioned the next town Over from you (Carol) had only 5”. I wonder if Powder freak has some insight into what about the flow allowed Bretton woods to Crush and not downslope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Agreed . I thought Bretton woods was gonna have like 5-6” . Maybe you benefited from more of a SSE/SE flow than SE/ESE ? You mentioned the next town Over from you (Carol) had only 5”. I wonder if Powder freak has some insight into what about the flow allowed Bretton woods to Crush and not downslope I’m not sure. Franconia also got mostly rain, and they’re not too far. Must be something with the nuance of the wind direction vs mountain ranges to our south 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, alex said: I’m not sure. Franconia also got mostly rain, and they’re not too far. Must be something with the nuance of the wind direction vs mountain ranges to our south Ugh Cannon only reported 3” New . Yikes I see Sugarloaf had 18”! (Had to be up high ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Agreed . I thought Bretton woods was gonna have like 5-6” . Maybe you benefited from more of a SSE/SE flow than SE/ESE ? You mentioned the next town Over from you (Carol) had only 5”. I wonder if Powder freak has some insight into what about the flow allowed Bretton woods to Crush and not downslope Very strong flow. At the right height. The downslope was probably past/beyond them to the NW. It’s like rocks in a river. Sometimes the water level is shallow and the water falls sharply/immediately behind a rock, other times if the flow is deeper and stronger, the rock enhances the wave to max out downstream of it… and the resulting crash downward is even further out. It’s all about where the wave of moisture maxes out. Upstream of the barrier in shallow flow, over the barrier, or beyond the barrier in deeper flow. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alex Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Very strong flow. At the right height. The downslope was probably past/beyond them to the NW. It’s like rocks in a river. Sometimes the water level is shallow and the water falls sharply/immediately behind a rock, other times if the flow is deeper and stronger, the rock enhances the wave to max out downstream of it… and the resulting crash downward is even further out. It’s all about where the wave of moisture maxes out. Upstream of the barrier in shallow flow, over the barrier, or beyond the barrier in deeper flow. Makes complete sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Gfs better for the 17th. Still a graze but a good spot at d6 imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Gfs has a clipper dropping down at 180 hours. Haven't seen those in years. Deep winter coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Fast flow is a neg interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Gfs has a clipper dropping down at 180 hours. Haven't seen those in years. Deep winter coming It would be great to feel like Duluth for a stretch and not Daytona. Gfs trying to cook something up for the 20th as well. Regardless, we’ll have chances at a snowy stretch finally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Fast flow is a neg interference. Especially on a model like the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 One thing for sure, it's going to get colder, hopefully a storm or two hits us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: It would be great to feel like Duluth for a stretch and not Daytona. Gfs trying to cook something up for the 20th as well. Regardless, we’ll have chances at a snowy stretch finally. Cmc for the 20th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: One thing for sure, it's going to get colder, hopefully a storm or two hits us. A secs, clipper, hecs within a couple days would be a nice way to snap the rubber band back in our favor. Might as well shoot for the moon at this point. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 That GFS run is cold too. Much of next week is below freezing here verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George001 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The gfs looked close to something a lot bigger. If the energy digs just a little more for the 17th, the strength of the low will begin to increase on future runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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