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January 2024 -- Discussion


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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Gfs going that way too. Epicosity.

still think that the 19-20th is the best crack at something bigger. everything is there synoptically, you just need a strong impulse, which remains to be seen. but you have the decaying block, Rockies ridge, confluence, and amplifying OH Valley trough. hopefully modeling picks up on it a bit more in the coming days, but EPS and GEPS are sniffing it out

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

This is kind of what I was getting at last night....the runs are consistently sucking.

Hopefully models start showing better later today, no more rain in January its 50F at my shop, maybe we can sneak two events next week. 

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In all seriousness.. That's a beast by the EURO and it seems locked in on a BEAST for the day 5.5-6.5 range.. Other guidance seems to be coming along to the idea.. We need to shift the whole trough 100 miles east or so.. Doable at this range .. Just a fascinating 500mb evolution on the EURO consistetly showing up.. 

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Just now, Sey-Mour Snow said:

In all seriousness.. That's a beast by the EURO and it seems locked in on a BEAST for the day 5.5-6.5 range.. Other guidance seems to be coming along to the idea.. We need to shift the whole trough 100 miles east or so.. Doable at this range .. Just a fascinating 500mb evolution on the EURO consistetly showing up.. 

Fascinating in the isn't the adjective that I'd use, but...

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At almost a week out it will change and morph…into what we don’t know, but it will. The last one morphed and had a trailing S/W catching up and capturing it..that wasn’t there until a couple days before. Who knows what happens with this monster..but at least it’s there showing up. 

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25 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

At almost a week out it will change and morph…into what we don’t know, but it will. The last one morphed and had a trailing S/W catching up and capturing it..that wasn’t there until a couple days before. Who knows what happens with this monster..but at least it’s there showing up. 

Yea, all I mean is that I would like to see a few runs mixed in that nail the coast....not that I would spike the football over it in a deterministic sense, but if we keep seeing these runs locked in on the shit scenario, at some point confidence increases.

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27 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

The demon is over the Tsongas arena.

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the issue with that isn't really an issue - thank goodness ... - because we're still talking about 7 days.   but admittedly, it's not a good optic.

it's a problem that the 17th has had in all these Euro solutions that are trying to push for that event - interesting consistency there when even its own ensemble mean refuses to emerge a better signal for that time and space.  anyway, there isn't enough +SPP situated NW of New England. There is in fact on the 00z probably a modest -SPP there  ( "SPP" meaning surface pressure pattern). 

the 500 mb evolution is structured sufficiently for any fast moving Miller A or Miller A/B hybrid to move E of Boston, but the surface synoptics being what they are is causing the evolution to jump over and favor the left exit/entrance regions of the jet mechanics aloft. 

the sfc pressure layout aspects et al can change in 7 days, so we'll see there.  even a modest amount of PP correction may make the difference between a low cutting just enough to ruin the party, or keeping it east...  but, the ens ?   heh

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11 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

the issue with that isn't really an issue - thank goodness ... - because we're still talking about 7 days.   but admittedly, it's not a good optic.

it's a problem that the 17th has had in all these Euro solutions that are trying to push for that event - interesting consistency there when even its own ensemble mean refuses to emerge a better signal for that time and space.  anyway, there's not +SPP situated NW of New England. There is in act on the 00z probably a modest -SPP there  ( "SPP" meaing surface pressure pattern). 

the 500 mb evolution is structured sufficiently for any fast moving Miller A or Miller A/B hybrid to move E of Boston, but the surface synoptics being what they are is causing the evolution to jump over and favor the left exit/entrance regions of the jet mechanics aloft. 

the sfc pressure layout aspects et al can change in 7 days, so we'll see there.  even a modest amount of PP correction may make the difference between a low cutting just enough to ruin the party, or keeping it east...  but, the ens ?   heh

The ensemble signal is pretty paltry...I'm wondering if we don't eventually kick that entire cyclogenic can a bit closer to the ~20th.

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