EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: But in those maps, either c or d would be good for us, so based on those numbers 38.9% of the time we should have normal to below normal temperatures, while 47.0% of the time we have normal to above normal temperatures (what happened to what's left over-- that doesn't add up to 100% lol.) Those maps do not show troughing in the central plains. So geographically 1/3 however not sure the true percentages. Perhaps 20% east coast, 35% central and 45% west? Let me know if you find it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: Did you see Tony's historical record for today: looks on this day in 1989 we had an icy storm: 1989 - A winter storm spread snow and sleet and freezing rain from the Middle Mississippi Valley to the northeastern U.S. Freezing rain in West Virginia caused fifteen traffic accidents in just a few minutes west of Charleston. Tennessee was deluged with up to 7.5 inches of rain. Two inches of rain near Clarksville TN left water in the streets as high as car doors. Was a terrible snowfall year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, bluewave said: Yeah, that’s why parts of Suffolk went over 90” in 95-96 since they caught some of the storms that tracked too far east for NYC. Data for October 1, 1995 through April 30, 1996Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 84.0 GREENPORT POWER HOUSE COOP 80.0 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 77.1 PATCHOGUE 2 N COOP 92.0 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 78.8 Yeah I am a bit east in CT and had 92 as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, that’s why parts of Suffolk went over 90” in 95-96 since they caught some of the storms that tracked too far east for NYC. Data for October 1, 1995 through April 30, 1996Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 84.0 GREENPORT POWER HOUSE COOP 80.0 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 77.1 PATCHOGUE 2 N COOP 92.0 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 78.8 and BNL (NWS office) had 90.9 inches, if I remember correctly? I think NYC-Long Island are capable of getting 100 inches in the perfect pattern that lasts most of the season; in the historical record there are a couple of winters in the civil war or pre civil war era where both New York City and Philadelphia received 100 inches of snow and there was constant snowcover from Thanksgiving to St Patrick's Day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Yeah I am a bit east in CT and had 92 as well. NYC Metro was one of the few areas in the DC to Boston big city corridor that couldn’t set a new all-time seasonal snowfall record during the 2010 to 2018 period. Time Series Summary for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 56.1 0 2 1898-1899 54.4 0 3 1904-1905 46.8 0 4 1921-1922 46.5 0 5 1995-1996 46.0 0 - 1908-1909 46.0 0 Time Series Summary for Baltimore Area, MD (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 77.0 0 2 1995-1996 62.5 1 3 2002-2003 58.1 0 4 1963-1964 51.8 0 5 1898-1899 51.1 0 Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 78.7 0 2 2013-2014 68.0 0 3 1995-1996 65.5 0 4 1898-1899 55.4 0 5 1977-1978 54.9 0 Time Series Summary for New York-Central Park Area, NY (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 1995-1996 75.6 0 2 1947-1948 63.9 0 3 2010-2011 61.9 0 4 1922-1923 60.4 0 5 1872-1873 60.2 0 Time Series Summary for Boston Area, MA (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2014-2015 110.6 0 2 1995-1996 107.6 0 3 1993-1994 96.3 0 4 1947-1948 89.2 0 5 2004-2005 86.6 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, bluewave said: NYC Metro was one of the few areas in the DC to Boston corridor that couldn’t set a new all-time seasonal snowfall record during the 2010 to 2018 period. Time Series Summary for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 56.1 0 2 1898-1899 54.4 0 3 1904-1905 46.8 0 4 1921-1922 46.5 0 5 1995-1996 46.0 0 - 1908-1909 46.0 0 Time Series Summary for Baltimore Area, MD (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 77.0 0 2 1995-1996 62.5 1 3 2002-2003 58.1 0 4 1963-1964 51.8 0 5 1898-1899 51.1 0 Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2009-2010 78.7 0 2 2013-2014 68.0 0 3 1995-1996 65.5 0 4 1898-1899 55.4 0 5 1977-1978 54.9 0 Time Series Summary for New York-Central Park Area, NY (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 1995-1996 75.6 0 2 1947-1948 63.9 0 3 2010-2011 61.9 0 4 1922-1923 60.4 0 5 1872-1873 60.2 0 Time Series Summary for Boston Area, MA (ThreadEx) - Oct through SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Season Total Snowfall Missing Count 1 2014-2015 110.6 0 2 1995-1996 107.6 0 3 1993-1994 96.3 0 4 1947-1948 89.2 0 5 2004-2005 86.6 0 I thought we were going to do it in 13/14. I remember having 58 inches IMBY, with the GFS showing a 16 inch event and two snowstorms lined up! Unfortunately the PV pushed all the snow to the DC area that March. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: I thought we were going to do it in 13/14. I remember having 58 inches IMBY, with the GFS showing a 16 inch event and two snowstorms lined up! Unfortunately the PV pushed all the snow to the DC area that March. We could have done it if the epic 33 day snowy period when Newark got over 60” in 10-11 would have lasted longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, bluewave said: If the block in 09-10 was a little weaker, than NYC could have challenged 95-96. Data for October 1, 2009 through April 30, 2010Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall VINELAND 3.5 NW CoCoRaHS 91.3 WRIGHTSTOWN COOP 80.8 HAMMONTON 3.3 WSW CoCoRaHS 79.6 FRANKLIN TWP 2.7 W CoCoRaHS 79.0 TOMS RIVER COOP 76.0 Wow, 76 on the season in Toms River? That’s very respectable. I lived up in North Brunswick then, moved down this way early 2012. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Snowstorm on gfs for Friday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Looks great lp and track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, cleetussnow said: Looks great lp and track This storm is definitely happening because we're torching not long afterwards. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said: This storm is definitely happening because we're torching not long afterwards. Would like to see the CMC come onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Walt, will the Poconos be done with the snow squalls by noon time? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 18 minutes ago, cleetussnow said: Looks great lp and track Its the GFS. Please incorporate Canadian into the thinking. A period of snow yes... snowstorm too soon to know for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 38 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said: Wow, 76 on the season in Toms River? That’s very respectable. I lived up in North Brunswick then, moved down this way early 2012. Toms River was near the jackpot for most of the snowstorms that winter, not just the early February one, but one in January too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 56 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: I thought we were going to do it in 13/14. I remember having 58 inches IMBY, with the GFS showing a 16 inch event and two snowstorms lined up! Unfortunately the PV pushed all the snow to the DC area that March. 13-14 had too many mixing storms.... 14-15 could have done it because it was colder but the winter started too late, but even so, that ended up being Boston's big winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, wdrag said: Its the GFS. Please incorporate Canadian into the thinking. A period of snow yes... snowstorm too soon to know for me. Hi Walt. Just a question. Why do you lean on the Canadian so much? Doesn’t it have the lowest verification scores of all the main globals? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: 13-14 had too many mixing storms.... 14-15 could have done it because it was colder but the winter started too late, but even so, that ended up being Boston's big winter. 2013-14 had almost 60" prior to March 1st. We easily could've had 70+ that winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, Stormlover74 said: 2013-14 had almost 60" prior to March 1st. We easily could've had 70+ that winter for the coast though we had a lot less because a lot of those big storms mixed here. I liked 2014-15 more, because it was much colder and more long lasting snowpack. 2013-14 and 2014-15 back to back was almost like 2009-10 and 2010-11 back to back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: for the coast though we had a lot less because a lot of those big storms mixed here. I liked 2014-15 more, because it was much colder and more long lasting snowpack. 2013-14 and 2014-15 back to back was almost like 2009-10 and 2010-11 back to back. I was the opposite had more mixing 14/15 than 13/14. DC did far far better 13/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: Hi Walt. Just a question. Why do you lean on the Canadian so much? Doesn’t it have the lowest verification scores of all the main globals? @bluewave does this also… Its a awful model imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, EastonSN+ said: I was the opposite had more mixing 14/15 than 13/14. DC did far far better 13/14. Same 2014 I mixed with the VD storm otherwise it was cold. December had a few snow to ice events too. Feb 2015 despite being frigid had few all snow events 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: I was the opposite had more mixing 14/15 than 13/14. DC did far far better 13/14. really? I thought you'd have more in 14-15 because you're in SNE and SNE was a 3 month party in 2014-15 lol Look how much Boston got lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Personally would not lean on the Canadian for any of these. That is the last model I would factor in when trying to see a storm signal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: Same 2014 I mixed with the VD storm otherwise it was cold. December had a few snow to ice events too. Feb 2015 despite being frigid had few all snow events You didn't get a lot in January 2015 either did you? We had about a foot (busted on the 3 foot call though lol-- that came the following January.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Ukmet is 1-2 for the area. Scaled back from last nights run 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: I was the opposite had more mixing 14/15 than 13/14. DC did far far better 13/14. I looked up NYC snowfall totals they were 50+ both seasons, the main differences were that although February was snowy in 2015 it was nearly historic in 2014, and March was much snowier in 2015, while we got zero snow in March 2014, but I have a lot better memories of 14-15 because it was backloaded.... nearly 20 inches of snow in March 2015 made it my snowiest March ever. https://www.weather.gov/media/okx/Climate/CentralPark/monthlyseasonalsnowfall.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Allsnow said: @bluewave does this also… Its a awful model imo I look at all the model guidance and don’t have any favorites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, MJO812 said: Who wants arctic air ? I rather have it just cold enough for snow. Enjoy Tuesday and next weekend before it gets mild for a brief time. Oh sign me up man I’m all about it! 13–14 and 14–15 (the former more so) were my glory days! Snowing with single-digit temps is the best it gets IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, bluewave said: I look at all the model guidance and don’t have any favorites. You were favoring the CMC for Monday nights event which would have given the interior a huge snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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