Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, North and West said: The problem here is that then you have to live in Missouri. . KC's great. Rest of the state not so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Tatamy said: January 26, 1978 was the date of the Ohio Valley Blizzard. Lowest pressure reached 960 mb in Detroit and 956 mb in Mt. Clemens, MI. This resulted in a tremendous windstorm in the NE part of the country. Winds where I lived on the north shore of LI at the time reached 50-60 mph in gusts for a good part of the day and these winds were from the SW after the cold front passed. That was the most intense phasing system in the US until March 1993 came a long. https://www.greatlakes.salsite.com/Phasing_Storms.html Phasing Storms My Home Page This page is about storm systems in North America that can be characterized by two or three upper level lows (or vortices or troughs) that merge together to create a bigger or more intense storm, sometimes resulting in a snowstorm. Midwest Blizzard of '78January 24-27, 1978 250mb loop 850mb loop Surface Temp and SLP loop Essentially Two-vort max powerful phasing. Did three branches of the jet stream phase together You decide: 500mb Wind Speed Loop (0.2MB) 250mb Wind Speed Loop (0.2MB) Superstorm East Coast storm.March 12-14, 1993 NARR animation NCEP Reanalysis Animaton 250mb loop 850mb loop Surface loop Three-vort max powerful phasingMarch 13, 1993 12z 300mb wind speed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, the_other_guy said: Well, it’s a very Long Island centric forum. I know it would screw up the forum, but I think that the Hudson Valley should be its own thing. The weather really isn’t the same and there’s diverging narratives and interest in just basic posting. There is the interior thread FWIW. Overall, I think most know the interior & coast get different outcomes in various patterns/storms. Storm threads are good, as one gets to see the obs showing that difference. We just need an area wide blizzard and all will be happy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 28 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: I got out and enjoyed the inch I had while it was falling. Figured that might be it, you never know. Thought I saw some optimism in here yesterday but now it seems like people are dialing that back? Seems it's still 7-10 days away for anything decent-next 2 storms are raging cutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Seems it's still 7-10 days away for anything decent-next 2 storms are raging cutters. Well that goes without saying. Done thru Sunday. But then it looks nice and cold for more than 3!!! days Question is will that be wasted or does something pop next Tuesday. You be surprised, you get a nice 6 incher that stays on ground for a week or so, and people have a different outlook. Another one in February and even if thats your winter, you were in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: Yep-the big pattern has yet to materialize and it's getting to the point where it may not happen and we're just mainly warm and wet like December.... one storm(New England) doesn't make a winter much like one storm did not make the winter of 15-16 a good one for the mid atlantic/metro nyc area.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Great Snow 1717 said: one storm(New England) doesn't make a winter much like one storm did not make the winter of 15-16 a good one for the mid atlantic/metro nyc area.. It saved it from being a clunker for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Stormlover74 said: It saved it from being a clunker for sure .....raised the grade from an F- to an F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 24 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: KC's great. Rest of the state not so much Doesnt KC average like 18 inches of snow per year? Much lower than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: The Jan thread there is trainwreck this morning-lot of insults and personal attacks which is what you get in a bad pattern ..whoa, whoa, c'mon man the pattern looks great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: .....raised the grade from an F- to an F? A winter with a 30" blizzard being an F when average is below that? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Doesnt KC average like 18 inches of snow per year? Much lower than us Well I wasn't speaking of weather necessarily. But they get alot of severe to make up for the lack of snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Another cutter on the euro for the 16th. Can’t have that Saturday system get trapped under the block 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: A winter with a 30" blizzard being an F when average is below that? I think not but wasn't it gone in a week?....I admit to being a snowpack fan because a snowpack helps it to look and "feel" like winter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Allsnow said: Another cutter on the euro for the 16th. Can’t have that Saturday system get trapped under the block 186 hours out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Allsnow said: Another cutter on the euro for the 16th. Can’t have that Saturday system get trapped under the block it's a Mariano Rivera Pattern..one cutter after another... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: 186 hours out People need to stop with the oh this can't cut no chance look at that blocking It's also really not at all the cold beforehand. Look at the euro. Decent track yet rain back to eastern PA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said: it's a Mariano Rivera Pattern..one cutter after another... Don’t say that in your forum, they will Come after you with broom sticks haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Allsnow said: Don’t say that in your forum, they will Come after you with broom sticks haha more like: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: People need to stop with the oh this can't cut no chance look at that blocking One of the most overused defense mechanism to a cutter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said: more like: Don’t forget the black belt ninjas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: One of the most overused defense mechanism to a cutter. The one I like is “it’s impossible for that storm to cut because there’s heavy snowpack!” If a shortwave amps in the right place you can have 4 feet of snow and 10 inches of ice in the path it wants to take and it will still cut right over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: People need to stop with the oh this can't cut no chance look at that blocking Correct. When there is an RNA there is always risk of both cutter and sheared. The times where the Neg. NAO worked with an RNA are usually when the the PNA is in a transitory state, not continuous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I had my mini snow. All set for pitchers and catchers City can make it 1065. Why not? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, wdrag said: Waiting til 350P. Best way to go seems to be a 12-13 thread. Ensembles previously--all 3 major global had a snow event the 16th... and this far out only 1-2". I think we can wait till 350PM. I would just start with a 12/13 thread - combining storms in one thread turns into confusion around here - plus 1/16 outcome depends on where the next 2 storms end up tracking - very complex....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: One of the most overused defense mechanism to a cutter. Agree... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 17 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Don’t forget the black belt ninjas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannynyc Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The system on the 16th is not a cutter on the Euro. A cutter has the low go over the great lakes and the Euro system doesn't do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, mannynyc said: The system on the 16th is not a cutter on the Euro. A cutter has the low go over the great lakes and the Euro system doesn't do that. Right. Even worse the track isn't terrible and it still doesn't have snow south of the Poconos. Eps looks better thankfully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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