dmcginvt Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Canada In the best snowstorms for PHL and NYC I am the cold high that gets nada. I don't see that happening until late Jan at best. I don't see me going below zero anytime soon. This is the latest in the season I haven't gone below zero yet in a long time. Closest has been 5f this winter. Also this is bullpuckey anecdotal evidence, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 44 minutes ago, Dark Star said: and where is the cold air coming from? western USA looks like it wants to seep east. Seems like we have an interesting two months in progress. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 36 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Is this a rhetorical question? i can't do this anymore LMAO i do not know what some people are talking about 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 14 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: i can't do this anymore LMAO i do not know what some people are talking about Quietly, this will be the coldest night of the winter so far. Down to 29 already with the wind making in feel much colder 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Allsnow said: Quietly, this will be the coldest night of the winter so far. Down to 29 already with the wind making in feel much colder I was gonna say that today was the first time walking home from work when it felt like a normal winter evening. Just out of curiosity (and sorry if this’s been answered) but has NYC ever gone a whole winter without temps dipping below 20 degrees? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Eduardo said: I was gonna say that today was the first time walking home from work when it felt like a normal winter evening. Just out of curiosity (and sorry if this’s been answered) but has NYC ever gone a whole winter without temps dipping below 20 degrees? No. Winter 2001-02 came closest with a minimum temperature of 19. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Definitely cold tonight. 22 with some legit wind chills at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Down to 25 here, chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Records: Highs: EWR: 68 (2000) NYC: 66 (2023) LGA: 66 (2023) Lows: EWR: 1 (1981) NYC: -3 (1918) LGA: 4 (1981) Historical: 1888 - Sacramento, CA, received 3.5 inches of snow, an all-time record for that location. The heaviest snow in recent history was two inches on February 5th in 1976. (4th-5th) (The Weather Channel) 1917: A tornado with estimated F3 damage cut a 15-mile path and struck a school at Vireton in Pittsburg County, Oklahoma, killing 16 people. It ranks as the 4th worst school tornado disaster in U.S. history. 1971 - A blizzard raged from Kansas to Wisconsin, claiming 27 lives in Iowa. Winds reached 50 mph, and the storm produced up to 20 inches of snow. (David Ludlum) 1982 - Milwaukee, WI, was shut down completely as a storm buried the city under 16 inches of snow in 24 hours. It was the worst storm in thirty-five years. (David Ludlum) 1987 - A storm moving off the Pacific Ocean spread wintery weather across the southwestern U.S., with heavy snow extending from southern California to western Wyoming. Up to 15 inches of snow blanketed the mountains of southern California, and rainfall totals in California ranged up to 2.20 inches in the Chino area. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Frigid arctic air invading the central and eastern U.S. left Florida about the only safe refuge from the cold and snow. A storm in the western U.S. soaked Bodega Bay in central California with 3.12 inches of rain. (National Weather Summary) 1989 - Up to a foot of snow blanketed the mountains of West Virginia, and strong winds in the northeastern U.S. produced wind chill readings as cold as 60 degrees below zero in Maine. Mount Washington NH reported wind gusts to 136 mph along with a temperature of 30 below zero! (National Weather Summary) 1990 - A winter storm moving out of the southwestern U.S. spread heavy snow across Nebraska and Iowa into Wisconsin. Snowfall totals in Nebraska ranged up to 7 inches at Auburn and Tecumseh. Totals in Iowa ranged up to 11 inches at Carlisle. In Iowa, most of the snow fell between midnight and 4 AM. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1994 - A major winter storm blanketed much of the northeastern U.S. with heavy snow. More than two feet was reported in northwestern Pennsylvania, with 33 inches at Waynesburg. There were ten heart attacks, and 185 injuries, related to the heavy snow in northwest Pennsylvania. Whiteout conditions were reported in Vermont and northeastern New York State. A wind gusts to 75 mph was clocked at Shaftsbury VT. In the Adirondacks of eastern New York State, the town of Tupper reported five inches of snow between 1 PM and 2 PM. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2018: NOAA's GOES-East satellite caught a dramatic view of the Bombogenesis 'Bomb Cyclone' moving up the East Coast on the morning of January 4, 2018. The powerful nor'easter is battering coastal areas with heavy snow and strong winds, from Florida to Maine. Notice the long line of clouds stretching over a thousand miles south of the storm. The storm is drawing moisture all the way from deep in the Caribbean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 40 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Looking at 60-70F high Temps late Jan in upstate. You all near coast may suffer from ocean proximity. Sad. What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Mid January looks good on the models 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, MJO812 said: Mid January looks good on the models Could be a good period after that. Targeting latter Jan & Feb. Lots of potential I think. Snowman19 is an idiot btw 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: No. Winter 2001-02 came closest with a minimum temperature of 19. Yeah I figured that, if it had ever happened, it would have been 2001-2002 or 2011-2012. Thanks Don! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 22 chilly morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 28 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 hours ago, Dark Star said: and where is the cold air coming from? All the cold keeps going into the West or Plains. This is where the mean trough has been located since around the 15-16 super El Niño. It’s mainly a function of the frequent MJO 4-7 phases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 Elizabeth warehouse fire right now ... on TEWR radar...particulate matter blowoff. 1/5/24 628AM post 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Could be a good period after that. Targeting latter Jan & Feb. Lots of potential I think. Snowman19 is an idiot btwHe’s not dumb, he just likes to needle MJO, and sometimes it’s just too much and the horse needs to be taken to the glue factory.(Akin to me and gifs). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Let's see if we are going to get a backloaded winter pattern at the end of this month . Models keep reloading the trough out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Let's see if we are going to get a backloaded winter pattern at the end of this month . Models keep reloading the trough out west. Many are calling for it like Snooki and Bluewave… We hope they are correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Many are calling for it like Snooki and Bluewave… We hope they are correct Definitely because I forgot how snow looks and my shovels are collecting dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 21 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Many are calling for it like Snooki and Bluewave… We hope they are correct I am hoping the convection will weaken in February near the Maritime Continent. But it’s still uncertain and no guarantee until we see what the MJO does after going though 4-7. It will really be a wait and see situation. We have had so many disappointments in recent years with the MJO weakening before 8 and then reloading in 4-7 again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Many are calling for it like Snooki and Bluewave… We hope they are correct Just need to follow nino climo. That’s been my plan since the fall. Plus the fact that our winters are becoming increasingly backloaded as we need to build sea ice in the Arctic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Just need to follow nino climo. That’s been my plan since the fall. Plus the fact that our winters are becoming increasingly backloaded as we need to build sea ice in the Arctic. Thanks @bluewave for the hope yeah, should be interesting around the country the next few weeks. I’m hopeful we get something before January ends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 20 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Thanks @bluewave for the hope yeah, should be interesting around the country the next few weeks. I’m hopeful we get something before January ends. This is why I HATE strong El Ninos. 97/98 is a warning to the worst case scenario which is always on the table during these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 12 hours ago, Allsnow said: Is this a rhetorical question? Thanks for the map, but didn't a previous long range map in late December show arctic air coming across the pole into eastern Canada? I think we all know the accuracy of these long range models. I admit my skills have greatly eroded, but I have been concentrating more on real time temperatures in Canada. Right now, the core of the coldest air in North America is north of Michigan and just west of Hudson Bay, with a few extensions further west. Then, as you go farther north, it gets warmer. The true arctic air is predominantly over northern Europe right now. So my question is, how or where is the cold air on this projection coming from? What are the inputs of this model and how accurate has it been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, wdrag said: Elizabeth warehouse fire right now ... on TEWR radar...particulate matter blowoff. 1/5/24 628AM post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: No. Winter 2001-02 came closest with a minimum temperature of 19. We will get below 19 between the 15th and 18th imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Nice column… Lots of ice shots from the water with the cold temperatures this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: This is why I HATE strong El Ninos. 97/98 is a warning to the worst case scenario which is always on the table during these events. This has gone beyond just simple El Niño and La Niña climatology. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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