gravitylover Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It's been flurrying for hours, at least since 2am, and there's a nice coating on everything. It looks nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: It has been one of the main culprits of our recent lousy winters. Wish we could drain it like a swimming pool. that would also fix the sea level rise problem lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, jm1220 said: If you want to build an island 150 miles or so SE of here you can probably enjoy it every time we have strong NW wind CAA in the winter. That’s been rare though. Or move Long Island about 150 miles south? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, Rjay said: Snowing on the barrier islands along the south shore. Great South Bay effect snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, jm1220 said: If you want to build an island 150 miles or so SE of here you can probably enjoy it every time we have strong NW wind CAA in the winter. That’s been rare though. That's why we see huge bands of snow over the ocean on a cold sunny winter's day all the time. It's all being wasted on the fish lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Nice coating on everything; looks like winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 29 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Or move Long Island about 150 miles south? The tolls on a 150 mile bridge would be insane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, gravitylover said: The tolls on a 150 mile bridge would be insane! Yes, we'd need a ferry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, ForestHillWx said: Nice coating on everything; looks like winter. I'd be happy getting this every other day (with a day of sunshine in between) and forget all about big storms and arctic cold shots and cutters and whatever else misery happens here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 28 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I'd be happy getting this every other day (with a day of sunshine in between) and forget all about big storms and arctic cold shots and cutters and whatever else misery happens here. Agree. I'll take a dozen of minor events rather than just one blockbuster storm and that's it for the season. Just enough to look pretty outside but doesn't disrupt travel. Best of both worlds, minus the brine and road salt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 More clouds. How many days since we’ve seen the sun? 10? Has to be a record! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 .20" snowfall here overnight into this morning. Looks pretty. Nickle and dime events and I still am not at 12" for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, psv88 said: More clouds. How many days since we’ve seen the sun? 10? Has to be a record! Looks like the sun won't come out until Friday afternoon now. Plain cloudy or plain rainy days are just awful, if we just had light snow all day and even if we just a light coating on everything, it'd be wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 23 minutes ago, TJW014 said: Agree. I'll take a dozen of minor events rather than just one blockbuster storm and that's it for the season. Just enough to look pretty outside but doesn't disrupt travel. Best of both worlds, minus the brine and road salt. Yep, I can do without the plain cloudy days and the plain rainy days, if we just had light snow every other day and a light coating on everything, it would be a lot more cheerful around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Yep, I can do without the plain cloudy days and the plain rainy days, if we just had light snow every other day and a light coating on everything, it would be a lot more cheerful around here. Very light snow here. Have been getting very light snow and flurries since the overnight hours. Most of it has not been sticking. 34/31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Winter 2023-2024 now ranks as the 4th worst winter in terms of warmth and lack of snowfall through January 31st: It is also categorized as a "mild" season on the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI). The AWSSI is based on a more limited data set. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, psv88 said: More clouds. How many days since we’ve seen the sun? 10? Has to be a record! The sun was out on Saturday in Roslyn and was peeking out in Syosset on way to Roslyn. Don’t know for how long, as I was busy entertaining at my kid’s bday party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Winter 2023-2024 now ranks as the 4th worst winter in terms of warmth and lack of snowfall through January 31st: It is also categorized as a "mild" season on the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI). The AWSSI is based on a more limited data set. You need to include cloudy days in this analysis. This would bump this to the worst winter ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, uofmiami said: The sun was out on Saturday in Roslyn and was peeking out in Syosset on way to Roslyn. Don’t know for how long, as I was busy entertaining at my kid’s bday party. That’s it for the past 10 days lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, psv88 said: You need to include cloudy days in this analysis. This would bump this to the worst winter ever Unfortunately, the dataset for cloudy days only goes back to the late 1990s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 And the winnah... the NAM and GFS (USA modeling) and Canadian as well vs the nil ECMWF. Shallow RH, weak lift and here's the results. I also added the NBM from 8PM the 29th which had a touch but am sure it was diminished by the nil EC. Also, I don't think it captured elevated slightly heavier small flake snowfall. imo, no model can be disparaged every time... I don't. Sometimes frustration-yes! and the NBM is imperfect but a nice starting point, Here's the melted water equiv and snowfall from CoCoRaHs overnight. Please click for your clarity if you wish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Winter 2023-2024 now ranks as the 4th worst winter in terms of warmth and lack of snowfall through January 31st: It is also categorized as a "mild" season on the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI). The AWSSI is based on a more limited data set. What if we also add in the amount of rainfall and lack of any sunshine into the mix? Does it rank even "higher" on the misery index if we add those two factors Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, psv88 said: You need to include cloudy days in this analysis. This would bump this to the worst winter ever bingo, and the amount of rainfall too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 New York City will have a Dec-Jan mean temperature of 40.8. This will mark the 9th winter with a Dec-Jan mean temperature of 40 or above, with 6 occurring since 2000. This will be the first case of 2 consecutive such winters. Records go back to 1869. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: What if we also add in the amount of rainfall and lack of any sunshine into the mix? Does it rank even "higher" on the misery index if we add those two factors Don? The data for clouds/sunshine is very limited (goes back to the 1990s). I will incorporate a rainfall variable (% of precipitation that falls as snow) into the mix later today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 33 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Winter 2023-2024 now ranks as the 4th worst winter in terms of warmth and lack of snowfall through January 31st: It is also categorized as a "mild" season on the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI). The AWSSI is based on a more limited data set. I suspect we'll bump up a notch or two by 2/15. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Nyc biggest snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Adding a precipitation variable resulted in very few changes e.g., 1905-06 dropped from 9th to 10th. Simpler version: Expanded Version: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Unlikely 12z/31 NAM solution for nearby NYC snow Thu night-Fri morning. Not on the 06z Canadian RGEM, nor on 00z/31 GEFS/CMCE ensembles. Doesn't mean it can't happen but my guess is that there will be above freezing layers aloft to make this wet NYC, icy w - n suburbs if its nearly this extensive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Adding a precipitation variable resulted in very few changes e.g., 1905-06 dropped from 9th to 10th. Simpler version: Expanded Version: Thanks, Don, I wonder what the end of winter rankings would look like? Would 2001-02 catch up to 1931-32 for number 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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