dryslot Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Testing out the merger of the HRRR, HREF, NAM, RAP. Definitely not a final product yet. DIT just added this to his favorite list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Beaufort Thanks. That’s always been a great scale. 55-63mph “seldom experienced inland; trees uprooted; considerable structural damage.” 40mph is much more impactful than folks think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: What is this RRFS-A model There was a tweet it replaced KFS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: The problem is after a couple of cold ones Beaufort quickly becomes Beerfort. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Thanks. That’s always been a great scale. 55-63mph “seldom experienced inland; trees uprooted; considerable structural damage.” 40mph is much more impactful than folks think. In summer... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Until they realized it was a Really Really F*n Shitty Ass model idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 HRRR NAM not backing down What say you RGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Until they realized it was a Really Really F*n Shitty Ass model idea Unless it could have been designed for entertainment purposes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: HRRR NAM not backing down What say you RGEM Edit found it, meh with elongated lows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: In summer... 55-63mph will uproot trees in any season. That’s some absolutely legit wind for inland zones. 40mph can uproot as well with wet thawed ground, it’s just not as sexy a number. I dunno, just witnessed a lot of weather over the years while monitoring the wx station readings on the Mtn. In the end, does the MPH value matter if the excitement and damage is there? If 40-50mph is very disruptive, does it matter if folks want it to be recorded as 60+mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, STILL N OF PIKE said: Unless it could have been designed for entertainment purposes ? Tolland Blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 +RN, 3” + coming, Already .75”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Edit found it, meh with elongated lows Oh god those have ruined a few winter storms for us in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, powderfreak said: 55-63mph will uproot trees in any season. That’s some absolutely legit wind for inland zones. 40mph can uproot as well with wet thawed ground, it’s just not as sexy a number. I dunno, just witnessed a lot of weather over the years while monitoring the wx station readings on the Mtn. In the end, does the MPH value matter if the excitement and damage is there? If 40-50mph is very disruptive, does it matter if folks want it to be recorded as 60+mph. My experience is 30 foot anemometer can't show true wind speeds that topple trees. Taller trees are more susceptible to a problem known as “windthrow” than their shorter counterparts. Windthrow refers to the act of strong winds fully uprooting trees. A tall trunk combined with full foliage turns your tree into a lever. Thus, when strong winds hit the upper part of the tree while exerting a considerable force on the lower trunk and roots, it can remove the entire root system off the ground, even if it is a large tree with healthy roots. Trees with Two Trunks Other trees most likely to fall in the wind are those with multiple trunks. A standard tree structure has one dominant trunk. If your tree has more than one dominant lead, it is more likely to suffer storm damage as the trunks offer blow away and towards each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sn0waddict said: Oh god those have ruined a few winter storms for us in the past. Nipples are back…lol. RGEM hasn’t been any good since 2015 though…so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: My experience is 30 foot anemometer can't show true wind speeds that topple trees. Yeah agreed, those 30-foot anemometer readings show the 30-foot wind speeds. Above that it likely increases. Depends on what height one wants to measure winds. If 100-200+ feet off the ground is the forecast value, then free air readings are definitely different animal than the ground level 2-M. Like I said who cares what the value is, if tree branches come down. 35-40mph at 2-M or 60mph off the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 One of the most eye opening events to me weather wise was finally realizing how high wind speeds can get even just 100 feet off the ground. When I was working at the Mashantucket Musuem we had Davis pros at 30 feet 75 feet and finally at 336 feet atop an observation tower. During a screaming soueaster we read simultaneously 35 mph at 30 feet 52 mph at 75 feet and 104 mph at 330 feet. Shortly after we measured the 104 Blue hill gusted to 101. I believe this was 2002?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Already hit 34 kt at PWM with some of this convective stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We’re gusting to 20mph. Radar looks like the biggest rain totals could be just west. Still, 2-3” with gusts into the 40s will cause some issues in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 hours ago, OceanStWx said: Already hit 34 kt at PWM with some of this convective stuff. Hunters dropsonde off Cape Hatteras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 No wind here at all so far looks like it may be mundane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: No wind here at all so far looks like it may be mundane Too soon to say that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 + SHRN , 1.10” on convective showers, 39.2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sn0waddict said: Too soon to say that lol No I meant some of the recent modeling. Things aren’t supposed to pick up until later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Analyzed at 985mb just off the NC/SC border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 .53" as of midnight....in a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Over an inch in those downpours that raced through earlier. Not a fun round-trip drive to Logan this evening; fortunately my son’s flight from Portugal got in ahead of the big winds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, PWMan said: Over an inch in those downpours that raced through earlier. Not a fun round-trip drive to Logan this evening; fortunately my son’s flight from Portugal got in ahead of the big winds. 1.69" in these downpours earlier does not bode well to whats coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Lurker Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Good God, the rain. Buckets!Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Great night for one of my sump pumps in the basement to shit the bed, Glad i had a high water alarm. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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