Chinook Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 New loops https://great-lakes-salsite.web.app/Dec_1_10_2023_250mb_loop.html https://great-lakes-salsite.web.app/Dec_11_20_2023_250mb_loop.html loop specific to our combination storm of the last few days. I find it just fascinating that storm elements combine in wintertime scenarios. https://great-lakes-salsite.web.app/Dec_15_20_2023_500mb_loop.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Whatever happened to beavis1729? He is probably ready for his head to explode right now given the warmth. I miss his rants in an odd sort of way. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I dream of a legendary winter similar to 2013-2014. The 11-17-13 tornado outbreak, the early December snowstorm, polar vortex blizzard, Thundersnow in February, 18” Snow depth with record cold was something I’ll talk to my grandkids about. @michsnowfreakreading his recap gives me goosebumps and butterflies. It was truly the best winter we could ever have here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 7:33 PM, roardog said: I think the most sleet I’ve ever seen was early April 2003. The previous night was an ice storm while everyone to the south was getting just rain. The next night everyone to the south was getting an ice storm while I was getting buried in sleet. I remember there was at least two or three inches of sleet. It stuck around for a while too even though it was April. ‘83,’03,’07,’16 were all Ninos that had a real wintry period in early April. Will ‘24 join that list? SWMI's version of that was 12-28, 2015. Looks like odds increase for those events during these Nino's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Happy Winter you weenies. The solstice was at 10;21p.m. Enjoy your winter now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Chambana said: I dream of a legendary winter similar to 2013-2014. The 11-17-13 tornado outbreak, the early December snowstorm, polar vortex blizzard, Thundersnow in February, 18” Snow depth with record cold was something I’ll talk to my grandkids about. @michsnowfreakreading his recap gives me goosebumps and butterflies. It was truly the best winter we could ever have here. It's hard to believe that winter was ten years ago. It truly was incredible. It actually defied the odds in terms of getting so much snow with such cold weather. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Truly epic! I couldn't start the track season until mid April due to the actual glacier draped across the track. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 8:48 PM, hardypalmguy said: Those coping drugs must be some good stuff. Just relentless warming on the running 30-year mean at this point - every year inexorably climbing higher and higher. The only thing that caused a brief pause was a chilly 2014. By comparison, here are the record low 30-year means: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Also of note, this is shaping up to be the warmest running 30-year average in the Chicago threaded weather record. Prior to the current 30-year period, all of the other top ten warmest were from the warmer Midway site [with, in a handful of cases, some years from the downtown city station]. Now that ORD has crossed the proverbial "Rubicon" in a sense, with the current running 30-year mean leapfrogging all of the older Midway records, I suspect from here on out, it will resemble the MKE and DTW trends, with each and every year, slowly but inexorably climbing higher until the end of meaningful time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: Just relentless warming on the running 30-year mean at this point - every year inexorably climbing higher and higher. The only thing that caused a brief pause was a chilly 2014. By comparison, here are the record low 30-year means: The fact that you engage with a troll that everyone wants banned pretty much ruins your credibility. What you're not realizing, however, is that the data you post (as cherry picked as some of it is) only makes your troll friend look more idiotic and tells us things we already know. He does not believe in ever so slowly steadily climbing temperature averages that most do, and no one here denies. He alleges that our winters are warming like 30° in a few decades. All you have to do is look at some of his previous posts. Oh, and that's another thing, those rising averages here are due to summer, not winter. January+ february temperatures are literally flatlined the past 100 years at detroit. In the last 10 years, Detroit has seen: 40 record highs 30 record warm Lows 21 record Lows 10 record cold highs What's interesting is that most of the record Lows have been in the cold season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 No I said our climate will be able to support in ground palm trees in 30 years. Not warming 30 degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Latest radar scope update says the NWS can now issue Snow Squall Emergencies That will be an interesting first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 No I said our climate will be able to support in ground palm trees in 30 years. Not warming 30 degrees. we already have them in-ground. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: Latest radar scope update says the NWS can now issue Snow Squall Emergencies That will be an interesting first Interesting. How is that different from a Snow Squall Warning i wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Interesting. How is that different from a Snow Squall Warning i wonder? My best guess is maybe squalls that are stronger or last longer than normal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 we already have them in-ground. .Without protection. There’s a guy in Cincinnati with needles and sabal minors unprotected for last several winters. Our climate will be more like Cincinnati in 30 years. Especially around the immediate shore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I’ve grown to not be a big fan of extreme cold because it’s usually otherwise quite boring but palm dude’s posting is making me hope for a January 2019 style cold outbreak. lol 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyweather Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Snowed last night near the summit of Mauna Kea on the big island. Since I’m here I had to go up and see it, since it’s not a thing at 43 north in Illinois this winter it seems. Pics from this afternoon. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 ^ Elevation is everything. Illinois is rather short on 11,000 foot peaks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Got my final ski day of 2023 in today and conditions were better then expected. Shoutout to Welch Village for still having a dozen runs worth skiing open, even after the deluge. It’s been a rough start to the season but they have invested heavily in snowmaking and it’s the best skiing south of Duluth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 My best guess is maybe squalls that are stronger or last longer than normal?It's not a Snow Squall Emergency, it's a Snow Squall Warning (SQW) with a 'significant' tag selected that will trigger the WEAs. Baseline SQWs will no longer get WEAs. I'm not sure how other offices are handling it but we're in disagreement with the policy and will not be issuing non WEA SQWs. We will only issue 'significant' SQWs that activate WEAs (between 5am and 10pm on weekdays and 7am and 10pm on weekends). https://www.weather.gov/media/safety/Snow-Squall-IBW.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjb3LmU4bODAxXcAHkGHTtqBzQQFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Cpc_VkwVJaiOH4JJHj9VZ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 When I moved up here from Atlanta, my neighbor gifted me a snowblower. I now realize he was just trying to offload his.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 15 hours ago, Spartman said: I wouldnt worry too much about an amaetur twitter poster from New England lol. As stebo mentioned, too strong of a SSW could mean too much suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 6 hours ago, DocATL said: When I moved up here from Atlanta, my neighbor gifted me a snowblower. I now realize he was just trying to offload his. . Is this your first Chicago winter? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Quite a run of very foggy drizzly days in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, mittenwx said: But the winds of change are blowing and the history doesn’t guarantee the future. Oh I can guarantee that DocAtl will need a snowblower in Chicago at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 a year ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 15 hours ago, DocATL said: When I moved up here from Atlanta, my neighbor gifted me a snowblower. I now realize he was just trying to offload his. . Better to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it. Candy heart Grandfather wisdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Chinook said: a year ago Was CRUSHED with 1.7” out of that WSW 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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