Winter '23-'24 Piss and Moan/Banter Thread

[hardypalmguy]

1 hour ago, Powerball said:

 

Right.

Will have to wait until after New Years in order for the days in totality to get longer.

Actually last week of December....

[Baum]

16 hours ago, Chinook said:

Be glad you are not in Kazakhstan/Russia/Mongolia/China. I think this extremely cold air mass has been developing for 1-2 weeks. Surgut to Omsk had -20F to -40F for their low temps, with high temps nearly the same. It was -30F temperatures in Kazakhstan. Nearly all of the rest of the world (not including Russia) was at or above normal temperatures from Dec 3-9 according to reanalysis plot.

I'm surprised the Climate Changer didn't beat you to  the punch here.

[KokomoWX]

Bah Humbug!  

[hardypalmguy]

22 minutes ago, KokomoWX said:

Bah Humbug!  

perfect.  palm tree weather.  get the suntan lotion out.

[Chicago Storm]

looking like the palm tree will go un-boxed into january.

this will be the first such time since i've had it, which dates back to 2008 or so.

[A-L-E-K]

Wow

[hardypalmguy]

looking like the palm tree will go un-boxed into january.
this will be the first such time since i've had it, which dates back to 2008 or so.

Yep I still have a ton outside as well totally undamaged. This clearly shows how fast our early winters are warming.

[RogueWaves]

On 12/11/2023 at 7:37 PM, Chinook said:

Be glad you are not in Kazakhstan/Russia/Mongolia/China. I think this extremely cold air mass has been developing for 1-2 weeks. Surgut to Omsk had -20F to -40F for their low temps, with high temps nearly the same. It was -30F temperatures in Kazakhstan. Nearly all of the rest of the world (not including Russia) was at or above normal temperatures from Dec 3-9 according to reanalysis plot.

But it's a calm cold. My wife hails from Tomsk (over a bit from Omsk) and she's fine with a quiet -40C/F but can't stand the windy PV blasts we get here in the Midwest. 

[bowtie`]

-40 is "Danger Will Robinson" weather. Hard pass.

[Powerball]

6 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

But it's a calm cold. My wife hails from Tomsk (over a bit from Omsk) and she's fine with a quiet -40C/F but can't stand the windy PV blasts we get here in the Midwest. 

Thats like saying it's a dry heat...

[TheClimateChanger]

 

[Brian D]

15 hours ago, bowtie` said:

-40 is "Danger Will Robinson" weather. Hard pass.

Darn right it is. That crap will hurt you.

[Brian D]

15 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

But it's a calm cold. My wife hails from Tomsk (over a bit from Omsk) and she's fine with a quiet -40C/F but can't stand the windy PV blasts we get here in the Midwest. 

She's right. Wind cuts like a knife. Draws heat right out of you.

[Brian D]

In the end, both extremes of temp come with their dangers. Tough stuff, and yet our ancestors dealt with it all the time. Sometimes at the cost of their lives.

[Brian D]

On 12/6/2023 at 6:32 AM, Lightning said:

Briefly at accuweather; on from basically the beginning of Eastern; a bit on Harry’s; briefly on another place (I think I was the only one from MI); took a long break; now here. 

Started at Accuweather back in 2007, then Joe (Chicago Storm) invited me to another one a couple years later after Accu was getting bad. Then just faded away for a few years until I ended up here. I wanted to get back to wx forums again, so I did a search, and found this one and another. The other one needed admin permission to be a part of, and I didn't get a reply. Signed up here, and I see Joe posting. Go figure.

[Baum]

15 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

 

that's the price you pay for hijacking Bastardi's winter forecast

[RogueWaves]

3 minutes ago, Baum said:

that's the price you pay for hijacking Bastardi's winter forecast

LOL, JB has AN temps across the entire northern tier. But I get it..

[cyclone77]

On this night back in 1987 things were about to get extremely exciting.  Still remember watching Monday night football as the snow started to fall.  It was the beginning of the infamous Dec 14-15 blizzard that brought 60-90mph winds over parts of IL and WI along with frequent thundersnow.  If I had to relive one of the top 5 blizzards since I've been alive I'd still probably choose this one.  Didn't put out as much snow GHDI but the ferocity was a tad higher for this immediate area.  I was only 10 but still can remember it like it was yesterday.

 

[MidwestChaser]

3 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

On this night back in 1987 things were about to get extremely exciting.  Still remember watching Monday night football as the snow started to fall.  It was the beginning of the infamous Dec 14-15 blizzard that brought 60-90mph winds over parts of IL and WI along with frequent thundersnow.  If I had to relive one of the top 5 blizzards since I've been alive I'd still probably choose this one.  Didn't put out as much snow GHDI but the ferocity was a tad higher for this immediate area.  I was only 10 but still can remember it like it was yesterday.

[cyclone77]

21 minutes ago, MidwestChaser said:

You're only as old as u fee...yep I'm old lol

[RogueWaves]

4 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

On this night back in 1987 things were about to get extremely exciting.  Still remember watching Monday night football as the snow started to fall.  It was the beginning of the infamous Dec 14-15 blizzard that brought 60-90mph winds over parts of IL and WI along with frequent thundersnow.  If I had to relive one of the top 5 blizzards since I've been alive I'd still probably choose this one.  Didn't put out as much snow GHDI but the ferocity was a tad higher for this immediate area.  I was only 10 but still can remember it like it was yesterday.

 

 Winds were awesome, even further east on the "inflow" side. That was one of only 2 storms in my life that delivered snow well east thanks to timely occlusion. In SEMI where I was we went from strong East winds and ripping snow (briefly) to T-storms, back to 4" of heavy wet snow before it was over. Dec 09 bliz was the other one when I lived in SWMI.  

[Lightning]

12 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

On this night back in 1987 things were about to get extremely exciting.  Still remember watching Monday night football as the snow started to fall.  It was the beginning of the infamous Dec 14-15 blizzard that brought 60-90mph winds over parts of IL and WI along with frequent thundersnow.  If I had to relive one of the top 5 blizzards since I've been alive I'd still probably choose this one.  Didn't put out as much snow GHDI but the ferocity was a tad higher for this immediate area.  I was only 10 but still can remember it like it was yesterday.

 

 

Isn't is crazy how we can remember storms like this.  1978 Blizzard is the same for me.  I was 7 years old and still remember it.  

Back then I had to wait for TV news for any updates. Makes me wonder how today's models would of handled it.  Wonder if todays models would of had 50+" runs with that storm  

[RogueWaves]

Models stunk even with last Christmas's bomb storm, and that wasn't the mega-merger scenario of '78. First Chicago and SWI were supposed to get rocked by a crippling bliz, then after that went poof, they kept insisting Detroit would get 10" which in reality ended up closer to 4. 

[Baum]

13 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

On this night back in 1987 things were about to get extremely exciting.  Still remember watching Monday night football as the snow started to fall.  It was the beginning of the infamous Dec 14-15 blizzard that brought 60-90mph winds over parts of IL and WI along with frequent thundersnow.  If I had to relive one of the top 5 blizzards since I've been alive I'd still probably choose this one.  Didn't put out as much snow GHDI but the ferocity was a tad higher for this immediate area.  I was only 10 but still can remember it like it was yesterday.

 

remember the game  and the storm well. Worked 30 hours straight clearing it.

 

[RogueWaves]

1 hour ago, Lightning said:

Isn't is crazy how we can remember storms like this.  1978 Blizzard is the same for me.  I was 7 years old and still remember it.  

Back then I had to wait for TV news for any updates. Makes me wonder how today's models would of handled it.  Wonder if todays models would of had 50+" runs with that storm  

Not sure if you were in Genesee Cnty your entire life? If so, you may remember the April '75 storm? That was the biggest storm of my youth (10 at the time) for me personally. Similar to the Dec 2000 bliz, it dumped big fatties for hours then finished with a few hours of bliz conditions and near-zero visibility. At least in eastern Genesee where I was. 18" show-stopper. Too bad it was already spring break so I didn't get any snow days off from school . For Genesee Cnty, I think the only bigger storm would be the Jan '67 bliz with it's nearly 23" total.  

[Lightning]

1 hour ago, RogueWaves said:

Not sure if you were in Genesee Cnty your entire life? If so, you may remember the April '75 storm? That was the biggest storm of my youth (10 at the time) for me personally. Similar to the Dec 2000 bliz, it dumped big fatties for hours then finished with a few hours of bliz conditions and near-zero visibility. At least in eastern Genesee where I was. 18" show-stopper. Too bad it was already spring break so I didn't get any snow days off from school . For Genesee Cnty, I think the only bigger storm would be the Jan '67 bliz with it's nearly 23" total.  

I was in Macomb Cnty. in  '75 and I was like 4 so to be honest I only remember in pictures 

Macomb => Houghton (hide site I wish I would have stayed here) => Macomb => Lapeer (great spot with land wondering if I should have stayed) => Macomb => Oakland => finally Livingston the past 11 years (great location on a lake  ).  Yeah I moved around a lot but I can say Macomb will NEVER be in my future 

Next move will be out of SE MI ... someday 

[hawkeye_wx]

You guys have a good memory.  I can't remember any weather events before high school (I'm 49).

[cyclone77]

15 hours ago, Baum said:

remember the game  and the storm well. Worked 30 hours straight clearing it.

 

Back when Al Michaels, Dan Dierdorf, and Frank Gifford called the games.  Pretty cool Al Michaels is still calling games, been hearing him since I was a kid.   Gonna be sad/end of an era when he finally retires.

[CheeselandSkies]

3 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

Back when Al Michaels, Dan Dierdorf, and Frank Gifford called the games.  Pretty cool Al Michaels is still calling games, been hearing him since I was a kid.   Gonna be sad/end of an era when he finally retires.

https://people.com/al-michaels-wont-call-nfl-playoffs-for-nbc-amid-criticism-8415276

[michsnowfreak]

Check out this satirical article from the March 4, 1954 Detroit Free Press. It was published the day after a snowstorm (after a mild winter). Some things never change!