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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2023-2024 OBS/Discussion


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8 hours ago, Albedoman said:

I admire you sticking to  your call but the thing that bothers me in this run  is there is one hell of a discrepancy of 6 inches vs 17 inches. Thats nearly an inch or so more of available precipitable water for snow making.  LIke I said another 8 hour run or so should iron some of it out. But even if I took half of that extra precip out this run, it would still meet winter storm warning easily. 8-12+ in seems more in line if this trend continues

Yep,  Mt Holly went with my old fart thoughts. We actually got our warning in the LV before the snow event Time to celebrate- the warning drought is over  LOL 

I also feel much better after reading their  forecast discussion about the explosive snow growth too as the temps fall to near or below 30 degrees adds to the accumulations. Folks, with this much dynamics in play now, can we get some thundersnow too?  That would be the icing on the cake. Will Jim Cantore show up somewhere in the LV?    Analogy storm  Feb 1983 snow storm fits well at this time as I remember  the LV received  3-5 in an hour snow rates with 24" of snow. My parents were stuck in that storm and was their first taste of a blizzard in the LV. I was in my 20's at the time and did not mind.  Seems plausible at this juncture  that this storm will somewhat similar  with its formation with the LP sitting near the sweet spot  at the Chesapeake after the transfer and getting stronger.  Snow accumulation amounts should be much less for this storm but the snow rates will be up there for sure for a few hours. Visibility will be down for sure with the monster flakes. Been  long time since we have seen this type of snow storm event unfold in the LV. 

 

1996  and 2016 LV blizzards were different as the they were both much longer  in duration, the temps were much colder  and the size of the flakes were smaller. This storm event  may unfold  like 1983

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_1983_North_American_blizzard#:~:text=Twenty-four-hour snowfall records,snow fell in one hour.

 

 

 

 

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Like @Birds~69 stated these setups generally disappoint se pa cold chasing precip. 9 out of 10 times. But who knows, maybe this is the 1 out of 10 where we get the surprise. I wouldn't bet on it tho. Thinking a coating to slushy inch or 2 in extreme se PA. AN inch to 3 up my way. North and W of Central Bucks 3-5" then a swath of 4-8" LV. Rough guesstimate.

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6 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Like @Birds~69 stated these setups generally disappoint se pa cold chasing precip. 9 out of 10 times. But who knows, maybe this is the 1 out of 10 where we get the surprise. I wouldn't bet on it tho. Thinking a coating to slushy inch or 2 in extreme se PA. AN inch to 3 up my way. North and W of Central Bucks 3-5" then a swath of 4-8" LV. Rough guesstimate.T

Yep, that's my thoughts.

Pretty much after midnight tonight I'll start looking way N and see where the cold air lies. Then I'll follow  Allentown/Lehigh Valley obs and so on as the cold moves S while following the moisture. It usually gives me an idea if we're going to get screwed or not. Is the cold air moving faster than predicted? Or slower?  

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