TheClimateChanger Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 12:09 PM, Mailman said: He still has this as his “pinned tweet”. Kind of silly at this point. Have to hope for a strong March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 17 hours ago, PghPirates27 said: Ended up with a bit over 2”. anything in the pipeline coming up ? Looks pretty quiet the next 7 days at least. A few transient cold shots, maybe we gut lucky and time something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 1:35 PM, KPITSnow said: I ended around 3.5. Sucks that literally 3 miles south got close to double. On 2/17/2024 at 7:58 PM, Gordo74 said: Does it REALLY suck when the forecast less than 48 hours ago was half of what you actually got? I guess this is a case of two different things can be true. This was a nice event, we got little improvements over the 24hrs leading up to the storm, had that crazy narrow band of 7-10 inches, and most ended up with double what was expected just a day or two prior. Being right on the edge of that band was a little frustrating, glad I got under it, but literally 5 miles away got almost double what I did so from the perspective of watching radar to get it to bump just a little further North did suck a bit. I was a bit surprised driving to work this morning going through areas that got nailed by the band that snow cover was already pretty well whittled away, late Feb sun doing the dirty work. Things really start to go down hill quickly now in the regard, time to root for overnight snows or a biggie and if we get anything else enjoy watching it fall vs having realistic hopes for longevity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 We need honestly a late freeze to avoid the invasion of bugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Not much winter to forecast. The ensembles all show a warmer pattern after this coming weekend when we get a cold shot, but it looks like any snow talks are on hold for a while. The GEFS is the exception for now which shows a little possible something on March 2nd when we get a transient ridge in a near ideal position. But it is on its own. The EPS and GEPS are both showing a strong warm look, nearly full latitude ridge at that time. I guess if you roll the pattern forward, mid-March is a possibility for something? Hard to get overly excited at this point. March is always a wild card, of course, but for me it's something historical like 1993 or let's just move on to spring. Five-and-dimes aren't as effective or interesting after February. In December? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just sucks, and just as a reminder, the all time snow futility record at PIT (16.6” in 1973-74) is still on the table as we’re at 15.3”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Also we’re losing March as a wildcard or a borderline winter month. Assuming this March fails us, that’s 4 out of the last 5 that have had little to no snowfall. 2020: 1.0” 2021: 0.1” 2023: 3.1” 2024: not holding out much hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Looking forward to an early spring, honestly. Snow in March doesn't do much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 An early spring would be much more palatable if we actually had winter. All of December, all but one week of January, and all but one evening in February have basically been spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I’ll do it quantitatively too: The average high on March 1st is 43, so I’ll define any day with a high of 43 or above as “spring-like”. With 10 days left of winter, we’ve had 46 spring-like days, and the forecast would suggest 9 of the remaining 10 will be spring-like, bringing us to 55. Only 3 winters have had 55 or more spring-like days, and none of us here experienced any of them: 1889-90, 1879-80, and 1931-32. So none of them were even an apples to apples comparison as they were observed in weird sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Warming winters: NWS Pittsburgh predicts this season likely to be second-warmest winter - Observer-Reporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Wouldn’t be shocked to see an inch or two along the I70 corridor this morning. Healthy little batch of steady snow. That was modeled way south a few days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 We could use more of a wave for Wednesday night. Usually a straight up anafront doesn’t verify the guidance bullish snow amounts. Although next week a possible storm ala Christmas Eve 2020, has been showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Thus might be just me misremembering but I seem to remember 60 degree days in January and February being a lot less common growing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: Thus might be just me misremembering but I seem to remember 60 degree days in January and February being a lot less common growing up 60 degree days in Feb, 1982-present. Draw your own conclusions, but it looks pretty clear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 January isn’t nearly as bad on that particular stat. As many 60 degree days in the 1990s as in the past 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 That said, this particular pattern is unprecedented, just not here. There are areas of the upper Midwest that have never hit 60 in February that could go into the mid to upper 60s tomorrow with enough sun and slow frontal timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 45 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: Thus might be just me misremembering but I seem to remember 60 degree days in January and February being a lot less common growing up Sorry, had to include March 1 since it doesn't accept February 29th as an end date. Good chance for 3 more in 2024. Certainly a long-term uptrend, but not a huge change since the 1990s. Bigger upswing since 2015, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 February is becoming a fringe winter month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 All in all, we've done incredibly well with snowfall this winter with only 6.5" less than Erie to date, per the official observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Up to 64 on my weather station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 hours ago, TimB said: February is becoming a fringe winter month. Let’s not jump off the bridge with just the past few years of data. Before 2016, February 2015 was literally the fourth coldest month of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 A 50” February wasn’t *that* long ago. Also, what followed was 5 or 6 above average snowfall Februarys in a row - getting well into mid 2010s. At that point one could have said they are becoming snowier than January. Two bad years doesn’t mean winter has changed. 2022 was the snowiest March since ‘93. And like I have said - this isn’t disputing the overall impact of climate change. But local sensible weather (esp pertaining to snow) needs a lot more data to conclude anything anytime soon. At this point - it’s just two bad winters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, Burghblizz said: A 50” February wasn’t *that* long ago. Also, what followed was 5 or 6 above average snowfall Februarys in a row - getting well into mid 2010s. At that point one could have said they are becoming snowier than January. Two bad years doesn’t mean winter has changed. 2022 was the snowiest March since ‘93. And like I have said - this isn’t disputing the overall impact of climate change. But local sensible weather (esp pertaining to snow) needs a lot more data to conclude anything anytime soon. At this point - it’s just two bad winters. February especially tho. We now have 2017, 2018, 2023 and 2024. It’s more likely in recent years that we have notable heat than snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: Up to 64 on my weather station. Made it all the way up to 68. Beautiful spring day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, TimB said: February especially tho. We now have 2017, 2018, 2023 and 2024. It’s more likely in recent years that we have notable heat than snow. Then that could reverse in the latter half of the decade. Such a small sample size cannot be used to make such sweeping statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 21 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: All in all, we've done incredibly well with snowfall this winter with only 6.5" less than Erie to date, per the official observations. Grading on a curve now to get a "good" winter. In all seriousness though, it helps getting over it that it was a bad almost everywhere. It's not like we missed a couple good storms and everywhere else is celebrating a blockbuster. A couple of long shot windows in March for a one hit wonder maybe showing up. I'd say I'm done and ready for Spring.. but here I am. Maybe a few thunderstorms possible, looks like a pretty dynamic front coming through. At least we should get some wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The reporting on the severe threat today hasn’t been consistent. I listen on the radio this morning and they are interviewing a met talking about one inch hail while reading the text discussions KPIT is like warm Gettomh on and off small hail up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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