Bubbler86 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: Never a doubt… CTP says we should take our T today at MDT today & like it! .03 of a trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I like that I’ve seen snow 3 times at my house since last Wednesday. Hopefully it is a positive signal for the upcoming Winter. It of course has not added up to much, but at the very least, it has made it feel festive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: .03 of a trace. Year after year….what else should we expect? Multiple reports all around MDT this morning of a couple of tenths of snow on the ground… Maybe their overnight final numbers will revise it, but I’m not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Blizzard of 93 said: Year after year….what else should we expect? Multiple reports all around MDT this morning of a couple of tenths of snow on the ground… Maybe their overnight final numbers will revise it, but I’m not holding my breath. What does ITT do? Is his prediction now washed away at the hands of too many flights to Sanford/Orlando today? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 We need to remember the T today when our seasonal total at MDT finishes up at 49.9 inches of snow…. We will wish that we had the official .2 today at MDT that could have pushed us over the magical 50 inch mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: What does ITT do? Is his prediction now washed away at the hands of too many flights to Sanford/Orlando today? I always like to lowball - based on my cameras and grass height when I left I'm going with .4". In all likelihood it was a bit higher. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said: Never a doubt… CTP says we should take our T today at MDT today & like it! Forgive me gentlemen but I am about to go OFF! I promise you there was measurable snowfall at MDT today. Promise. I went right by the damn place at like 6:58am and there was already a solid tenth on all non-paved surfaces and it continued to snow for many hours for god’s sake. I understand temps weren’t ideal for accumulation but they werent’t terrible either. Not to mention this occurred during prime early morning hours for minimum solar. There is NO way a proper snow board being properly checked would’t have registered at least a tenth or two, conservatively. MJS will not stand for this blasphemous record keeping! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Forgive me gentlemen but I am about to go OFF! I promise you there was measurable snowfall at MDT today. Promise. I went right by the damn place at like 6:58am and there was already a solid tenth on all surfaces and it continued to snow for many hours for god’s sake. I understand temps weren’t ideal for accumulation but they werent’t terrible either. Not to mention this occurred during prime early morning hours for minimum solar. There is NO way a proper snow board being properly checked would’t have registered at least a tenth or two, conservatively. MJS will not stand for this blasphemous record keeping! I believe that something is wrong at MDT. Last month MDT was -.1 while Capital City airport was -.9. What's up with that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Forgive me gentlemen but I am about to go OFF! I promise you there was measurable snowfall at MDT today. Promise. I went right by the damn place at like 6:58am and there was already a solid tenth on all surfaces and it continued to snow for many hours for god’s sake. I understand temps weren’t ideal for accumulation but they werent’t terrible either. Not to mention this occurred during prime early morning hours for minimum solar. There is NO way a proper snow board being properly checked would’t have registered at least a tenth or two, conservatively. MJS will not stand for this blasphemous record keeping! It’s been a problem for years, especially in marginal events. You still have 5 hours to have them fix this terrible error! The final daily summary doesn’t come out until overnight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The latest Euro Weeklies do indeed continue to be drool worthy. The can has not & is not being kicked on the Euro Weeklies. The good looking pattern begins Christmas week & continues through mid January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Here is the 30 day pattern from the latest Euro Weeklies beginning December 22nd through January 21st. We can’t ask for a better look! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, mitchnick said: I believe that something is wrong at MDT. Last month MDT was -.1 while Capital City airport was -.9. What's up with that? My hypothesis for that is, with CXY being on the west side of the river and MDT being on the east side, and the prevailing winds being westerly in nature, that the relatively warm late-autumn water has a slight but noticeable impact on the temps at MDT. The opposite effect would be true in spring. But I am certainly not above being skeptical of MDT’s accuracy either haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardstickgozinya Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Forgive me gentlemen but I am about to go OFF! I promise you there was measurable snowfall at MDT today. Promise. I went right by the damn place at like 6:58am and there was already a solid tenth on all non-paved surfaces and it continued to snow for many hours for god’s sake. I understand temps weren’t ideal for accumulation but they werent’t terrible either. Not to mention this occurred during prime early morning hours for minimum solar. There is NO way a proper snow board being properly checked would’t have registered at least a tenth or two, conservatively. MJS will not stand for this blasphemous record keeping! Glad others are finally noticing it. It's gets alot worse than today. Especially on marginal over night events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Some Ob’s from my travels. Palmyra to line grove had a solid 1”. Plows were down near catawissa. Bloomsburg barely a coating. Williamsport to Mansfield university much the same. Cabin down low a coating. Up top 1.5-2” and icy as hell. In Westfield now. Wing nite. I’ve got pics for proof but damn things are too big. Happy for all that got some flakes today. About 260 miles for the day. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, pasnownut said: Some Ob’s from my travels. Palmyra to line grove had a solid 1”. Plows were down near catawissa. Bloomsburg barely a coating. Williamsport to Mansfield university much the same. Cabin down low a coating. Up top 1.5-2” and icy as hell. In Westfield now. Wing nite. I’ve got pics for proof but damn things are too big. Happy for all that got some flakes today. About 260 miles for the day. Yep 1st snow inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Yardstickgozinya said: Glad others are finally noticing it. It's gets alot worse than today. Especially on marginal over night events. I tried to highlight it this summer with the crazy 5 min recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Steel?????? Sheesh....I would have bet on them if I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The 0z NAM is on board for rain changing to a decent period of snow Sunday night into early Monday am. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 06z NAM also decent for y'all it seems. First light snowfall for everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, Eskimo Joe said: 06z NAM also decent for y'all it seems. First light snowfall for everyone? The Euro & GFS along with the NAM that you mentioned are all on board with a rain changing to snow scenario late Sunday night into early Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 48-72 hrs prior is when you want the positive trends to start, and it looks like that what we have. The key word is "trend" because it's still too early to buy into any model output verbatim. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The NAM may beat the globals here in terms of thermodynamics because it's got better resolution. We got burned several times in Maryland when the GFS/EURO showed a clean and quick transition from rain to snow, but the NAM showed a persistent warm tongue that kept everything as a mixed bag and cut down on accumulations. The NAM was dead on in the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, mitchnick said: 48-72 hrs prior is when you want the positive trends to start, and it looks like that what we have. The key word is "trend" because it's still too early to buy into any model output verbatim. 35 here this AM. Seems to me it is the EC and Nam vs. all others right now as to the LSV. GFS, UK, CMC/RGEM, and Icon not really on the accum snow train for the LSV IMO. Trend wise, the EC held pretty much from 12Z. The Nam a surprise after some of its looks yesterday...seems to be focusing on several areas of LP. If it showed no snow people would be saying 'It's the Nam in the 70's". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: 35 here this AM. Seems to me it is the EC and Nam vs. all others right now as to the LSV. GFS, UK, CMC/RGEM, and Icon not really on the accum snow train for the LSV IMO. Trend wise, the EC held pretty much from 12Z. The Nam a surprise after some of its looks yesterday...seems to be focusing on several areas of LP. If it showed no snow people would be saying 'It's the Nam in the 70's". Come on, you know the old rule… Hug the model with the most snow! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: Come on, you know the old rule… Hug the model with the most snow! Haha, no issues. Just talking the run down. Did not say anything was right. I love the nam especially in big dog situations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 31 degrees and foggy here this morning. Seems like quit a few foggy mornings lately. Well at least the models are starting to show snow. MU weather, this morning. Until that trough over Alaska retracts into the Bering Sea or is replaced by a ridge, it’s “game over” in terms of much cold/snow in southeastern PA. And this is just one of several factors. The # of “mild days” will be far greater than the # of “chilly” ones through #Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Breakfast nooner 28 and partly sunny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 incased in fog again temp. 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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