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December Banter 2023


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8 hours ago, nj2va said:

I’m worried about a change in the weather pattern change before we get a change in the weather pattern to change. If a weather pattern changes and no one is around to see it, did the weather pattern change?

Just brutal. Gonna need some actual fantasy storms of some type soon to stop people obsessing over whether the fantasy blues and fantasy reds are in the fantasy right places just to give us all a break on the fantasy pessimism. 
 

this place is like a masochist convention sometimes with three particularly cruel sadists invited who only employ one type of whip. 

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8 hours ago, nj2va said:

I’m worried about a change in the weather pattern change before we get a change in the weather pattern to change. If a weather pattern changes and no one is around to see it, did the weather pattern change?

57 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

Just brutal. Gonna need some actual fantasy storms of some type soon to stop people obsessing over whether the fantasy blues and fantasy reds are in the fantasy right places just to give us all a break on the fantasy pessimism. 
 

this place is like a masochist convention sometimes with three particularly cruel sadists invited who only employ one type of whip. 

 

Both of these posts are eminent signature material.

The discussions up in here have been particularly entertaining of late.

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1 hour ago, North Balti Zen said:

Just brutal. Gonna need some actual fantasy storms of some type soon to stop people obsessing over whether the fantasy blues and fantasy reds are in the fantasy right places just to give us all a break on the fantasy pessimism. 
 

this place is like a masochist convention sometimes with three particularly cruel sadists invited who only employ one type of whip. 

I still want to know how the guy who trashes long range models and models in general is saying we are can kicking the cold pattern...what did he use to assume the pattern was coming and what is he using to say it is delayed?

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10 hours ago, Paleocene said:

Ugh, eagles

Until they are willing to adapt on offense this will continue.  There isn't too much they can do about the defense, they were weak up the middle in the back 7 to begin with then injuries made it worse.  But on offense they have refused to adapt to a change defenses have made.  Ever since AJ and Devonte went off earlier this season teams are playing a lot of 2 high safety and taking away whichever receiver goes deep and in some cases even double teaming them both!  And yet they continue to launch deep balls into that double coverage even when someone is wide open underneath.   They ended 3 drives last night doing that.  Once on 3rd down when they passed up a wide open Devonte for a first down and threw a bomb to a double covered AJ.  And twice late in the game when they threw and INT on a first down bomb for no reason.  

How much of that is on Hurts and how much is coaching I can't say.  Obviously its some of both.  But their philosophy needs to change, if they keep attempting deep balls when that is exactly what the defense is trying to take away the results will be the same.  

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5 minutes ago, Prestige Worldwide said:

The offense has become incredibly predictable.  It was never complicated, always relied on simply having better players and letting them win their 1 on 1s.  Problem is teams have had 2 years now to take away those advantages, double team, crash the box on those QB draws...it's just not working as well anymore.  But I still think wasting 5 plays a game on deep balls is a big part of it also.  They might not be as prolific as last year still but they would be a lot better if they focused on taking what defenses are giving them and not wasting 5 plays a game forcing a deep pass into double coverage.  I am not very impressed with their offensive coaching.   Anyone can design a decent offense with the skill players they have...they seem unable to adapt now that teams have come up with ways to limit them.  That's pretty bad considering how good the talent is across the board on offense.  

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Teams go through ups and downs. They just played the two best teams in the league, and played a third in a place that is arguably one of the toughest places to win in the NFL. The Eagles are solid. They will be around when it counts. They just need to stick to their run first mentality. They aren’t the fall behind kind of team. 
 

This from someone who hates the Eagles. They’re good. Wait and see.

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2 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

Until they are willing to adapt on offense this will continue.  There isn't too much they can do about the defense, they were weak up the middle in the back 7 to begin with then injuries made it worse.  But on offense they have refused to adapt to a change defenses have made.  Ever since AJ and Devonte went off earlier this season teams are playing a lot of 2 high safety and taking away whichever receiver goes deep and in some cases even double teaming them both!  And yet they continue to launch deep balls into that double coverage even when someone is wide open underneath.   They ended 3 drives last night doing that.  Once on 3rd down when they passed up a wide open Devonte for a first down and threw a bomb to a double covered AJ.  And twice late in the game when they threw and INT on a first down bomb for no reason.  

How much of that is on Hurts and how much is coaching I can't say.  Obviously its some of both.  But their philosophy needs to change, if they keep attempting deep balls when that is exactly what the defense is trying to take away the results will be the same.  

Agreed on the defense; it's similar problems to last year. They're just getting exposed more because the offense isn't as productive this year.

Agreed, the offense is where the big problems are IMO. It's basically the same personnel as they had last year with Steichen, but there is absolutely no rhythm to this offense. They get caught making ridiculous play choices and seem to always shift away from what is working (or never get anything working to begin with). Teams know that Hurts is going to look at AJ, Devonta, and maybe Goedert and that's it. If those three are covered he's only rarely going to throw it to someone else. I'd say Hurts wasn't himself last night, but he was running fast and got a lot of first downs. I'd pin it on playcalling and coaching. Hurts is playing hero ball, running around in the backfield looking for guys who aren't there.

 

I haven't given up hope and I think they can get it together to win a playoff game or two, but the last 3 weeks have been very frustrating to watch. Last night even more so because they clearly overmatched Seattle in multiple phases of the game, but couldn't pull it off.

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1 hour ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

Teams go through ups and downs. They just played the two best teams in the league, and played a third in a place that is arguably one of the toughest places to win in the NFL. The Eagles are solid. They will be around when it counts. They just need to stick to their run first mentality. They aren’t the fall behind kind of team. 
 

This from someone who hates the Eagles. They’re good. Wait and see.

As much as I despise all Philly teams, I agree that the Eagles are a good team.  They're still a team I wouldn't want to face in the playoffs.  

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1 minute ago, North Balti Zen said:

Taking side bets on who will be the one to ruin the vibes in the main thread and how. I am guessing the how will be something from a weather twitter troll posted in the long range thread...

Here’s some that might pop up:

-doesn’t look as good as a few days ago

-can see the breakdown on the 800 hour CFS

-March looks warm

-MJO is dying 

-base state warmth

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13 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

Taking side bets on who will be the one to ruin the vibes in the main thread and how. I am guessing the how will be something from a weather twitter troll posted in the long range thread...

 

9 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Here’s some that might pop up:

-doesn’t look as good as a few days ago

-can see the breakdown on the 800 hour CFS

-March looks warm

-MJO is dying 

-base state warmth

BAMWx and Webb already see the backside of the good pattern before it gets here. If it gets here…:(

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18 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Here’s some that might pop up:

-doesn’t look as good as a few days ago

-can see the breakdown on the 800 hour CFS

-March looks warm

-MJO is dying 

-base state warmth

2M temps at hour 370 look warm and the 540 line is up near Breezewood

weeklies showed a snowstorm on Jan 2nd at 3pm but it's now 4pm and the snow hasn't started...bust...can kicking again

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