michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Stebo said: Should break the record of 58 here today, forecast high is 60. Indeed we should. The low record high for Dec 9 (58, 1946) sticks out like a sore thumb when looking at the records list for the first half of December. Record Dec 8 is 66 (1966) and Dec 10 is 64 (1971). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Frog Town said: Stebo, I've always respected your opinion and insight into the weather. What are you thoughts on what the teleconnections are showing towards the end of December? I'm getting that feeling we are chasing a ghost as things continue to get pushed back. 57 minutes ago, Stebo said: We might be, but there is definitely a signal of a strong Pacific Jet that could flush the pattern a bit late in the month, whether or not that means something positive for us, remains to be seen. It does seem like we are chasing that elusive cooldown though. I don't feel we are chasing anything wrt a pattern change as we end Dec and start Jan. A mild Dec was well forecast and is a given in a strong Nino. Seems like everything remains on track for a flushing of the pattern (which usually causes a lag in sensible weather/cold). Next week looks cooler and Christmas week milder than they did, say, a week ago...but everything seems on track for a notable change for the eastern half of the country as we start January. Now what that means for us....stay tuned. As we head deeper into winter, a map full of blue temps is far less important than systems and storm tracks themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 It's 60 degrees in December, before noon. Of course the cold front will be coming soon, but we may be still in the 50's up to 7:00PM. Models say winds are 47kt at 925mb. Toledo has measured max wind gusts to 33knots/38mph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 63 here so far today, beat the record by 4 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stebo said: 63 here so far today, beat the record by 4 at least. With todays record high being so low, id rather beat it handily than have it tie at 58 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 It's like it's trying to be a supercell. Oh well, not that much CAPE. Some c-g lightning in Ohio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 50dbz coming in towards Detroit Metro Airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 tornadoes reported close to the Hopkinsville Kentucky radar site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Chinook said: tornadoes reported close to the Hopkinsville Kentucky radar site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see some cloud to ground lightning in my backyard before snow in December in a El Nino winter. Storms developed right overhead... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: I have made some posts in Central/Western subforum. The tornadic storm has likely gone from Oakwood Tennessee to Auburn Kentucky almost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 I don't feel we are chasing anything wrt a pattern change as we end Dec and start Jan. A mild Dec was well forecast and is a given in a strong Nino. Seems like everything remains on track for a flushing of the pattern (which usually causes a lag in sensible weather/cold). Next week looks cooler and Christmas week milder than they did, say, a week ago...but everything seems on track for a notable change for the eastern half of the country as we start January. Now what that means for us....stay tuned. As we head deeper into winter, a map full of blue temps is far less important than systems and storm tracks themselves. Euro has consistently pointed to a favorable pattern January and beyond. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 System passing through today bringing nought in precip for me, and now cold winds up to 35mph. This old house breathing a bit. Can feel the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Looks like we have more palm tree weather than winter weather this year. I’ll definitely take this any day it’s delivered as each day like this makes one less cold day possible and one more day closer to spring. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 A December soaker today on frozen ground left snow cover in patches. Colder air now beginning to move back in with a few inches of snow expected locally (several inches more just west in the favorable NW flow.) Notice the deer are still hanging around eating acorns from the oaks around my peak. They look healthy heading into Winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: Looks like we have more palm tree weather than winter weather this year. I’ll definitely take this any day it’s delivered as each day like this makes one less cold day possible and one more day closer to spring. You’ve really lowered the bar if that’s considered palm tree weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 You’ve really lowered the bar if that’s considered palm tree weather. I still have unprotected palms out as an experiment this winter. Windmill palms and needle palms don’t blink twice at any of the forecasted temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: I still have unprotected palms out as an experiment this winter. Windmill palms and needle palms don’t blink twice at any of the forecasted temps. Glad they aren’t succumbing to the cold. Did you have anything outside during the January 2019 cold snap? Wasn’t that the last deep cold in Milwaukee? For me this time of year I’d define “palm tree weather” as days within 3 degrees of a record high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Glad they aren’t succumbing to the cold. Did you have anything outside during the January 2019 cold snap? Wasn’t that the last deep cold in Milwaukee? For me this time of year I’d define “palm tree weather” as days within 3 degrees of a record high. I didn’t have anything outside 2019 winter. I had a windmill palm that got over 15 feet tall in ground from 2008-2018 that I finally wasn’t able to protect because I needed scaffolding or boom lift. So I let it go. Now I’m getting back to stuff in the ground and experimenting with how much they can take. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainsucks Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, DocATL said: Euro has consistently pointed to a favorable pattern January and beyond. . the CFS has a favorable pattern for a January 2006 redux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, rainsucks said: the CFS has a favorable pattern for a January 2006 redux Don't mind at all. Saves on my heat bill. It can get really F**King cold up here, so milder days are a plus. (20's & 30's) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 hey! record high of 65 at Toledo, breaking the daily (pretty break-able) record of 60. Just a bit of rain at my place today, and I don't know if I ever really had a shot to hear one or two rumble of thunder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, rainsucks said: the CFS has a favorable pattern for a January 2006 redux Fortunately the cfs accuracy is terrible this far out and changes daily. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 the CFS has a favorable pattern for a January 2006 reduxMonths ago I said we would have a January 2006 redux. I still think that. Winter is cooked in the Midwest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Got 0.74" from the storm today. Suicide weather to finish off the weekend tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 0.4” of snowfall yesterday. Season total at 4.5” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Your doing better than me. The dry spell continues. What a difference from last Dec. Duluth ended up breaking it's monthly snowfall record. About 20 yrs ago (03/04 I think), we had little snow otg, and by Feb septic systems all over NE MN were failing. Drain fields were freezing up due to deep frost. Water mains were routinely breaking due to frost heaves. It wasn't even that cold of a winter, pretty avg/above with very little below zero temps. Septic services couldn't keep up with the pumping demand. They made a lot of money though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 The run to run consistency on how bad this month looks for Chicago snow prospects is astounding. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Fun fact — MKE has not been below freezing through the first 10 days of December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainsucks Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, hardypalmguy said: Fun fact — MKE has not been below freezing through the first 10 days of December. Feel like that has to be some kind of record. Seems very impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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