bluewave Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, SACRUS said: More on the 2002 noreaster rain to mix - snow. A strong coastal. Believe those were the wright weather board days. http://bgmresearch.eas.cornell.edu/casestudy/2002/Dec2502/dec2502_files/dec252002.htm Heavy thunderstorms and low 40s later in the morning to heavy snow and 5-10” in the evening near the coast. CT STAMFORD 5 N COOP 10.0 NY BRONX COOP 9.9 NY YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W COOP 9.2 NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 9.0 NY OCEANSIDE COOP 8.0 NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 8.0 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 7.5 NY MINEOLA COOP 7.2 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 6.3 NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 6.0 NY SEA CLIFF COOP 6.0 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 5.7 NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 5.5 NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 5.1 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 5.0 NJ MIDLAND PARK COOP 5.0 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 https://www.theonion.com/study-more-americans-moving-to-sun-belt-to-get-head-st-1850641661. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Nice weather breackdown and compilation of NYC on Christmas https://thestarryeye.typepad.com/weather/2012/12/today-in-new-york-weather-history-christmas-day.html 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/17/2023 at 7:48 AM, donsutherland1 said: Week ahead numbers: The final numbers for the past week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Merry Christmas everyone. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdennis78 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Anyone have a good pulse on what to actually expect Tuesday night through Thursday morning (Dec. 27-29)? I'm in Morris County and I'm sweating bullets over the rain coming. How much are we looking at in a practical sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, kdennis78 said: Anyone have a good pulse on what to actually expect Tuesday night through Thursday morning (Dec. 27-29)? I'm in Morris County and I'm sweating bullets over the rain coming. How much are we looking at in a practical sense? Looks like around an inch or less at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 It has been easier for Newark to reach 50° on Christmas since the super El Niño in 15 than reach 90° on July 4th. Data for December 25 - NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature Precipitation Snowfall Snow Depth 2022-12-25 30 14 0.00 0.0 0 2021-12-25 55 38 0.16 0.0 0 2020-12-25 62 28 0.66 0.0 0 2019-12-25 48 27 0.00 0.0 0 2018-12-25 42 29 0.00 0.0 0 2017-12-25 38 28 0.20 0.1 0 2016-12-25 52 34 0.00 0.0 0 2015-12-25 63 54 0.03 0.0 0 Data for July 4 - NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature Precipitation Snowfall Snow Depth 2023-07-04 83 74 1.19 0.0 0 2022-07-04 91 64 0.00 0.0 0 2021-07-04 84 64 0.00 0.0 0 2020-07-04 87 70 T 0.0 0 2019-07-04 89 74 0.00 0.0 0 2018-07-04 89 76 T 0.0 0 2017-07-04 88 71 T 0.0 0 2016-07-04 84 62 0.46 0.0 0 2015-07-04 79 70 T 0.0 0 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, kdennis78 said: Anyone have a good pulse on what to actually expect Tuesday night through Thursday morning (Dec. 27-29)? I'm in Morris County and I'm sweating bullets over the rain coming. How much are we looking at in a practical sense? Nothing at all to worry about. Looking at about .50 - 1.00” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, kdennis78 said: Anyone have a good pulse on what to actually expect Tuesday night through Thursday morning (Dec. 27-29)? I'm in Morris County and I'm sweating bullets over the rain coming. How much are we looking at in a practical sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannynyc Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I mean the coastal low is there, but so is the rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, mannynyc said: I mean the coastal low is there, but so is the rain... in a day or 2 the mesoscale models are the ones to start looking at in this situation IMO - someone in the forum might see some flakes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Merry Christmas, to my weather extended family. Been on this board since 2011, that’s a long time. Hope everyone had a nice day irregardless of religion. Pretty typical Christmas weather these days. To think it was -01 for my first Christmas… 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Merry Christmas, to my weather extended family. Been on this board since 2011, that’s a long time. Hope everyone had a nice day irregardless of religion. Pretty typical Christmas weather these days. To think it was -01 for my first Christmas… Happy Christmas and Blessed New Year LBSF and all forum members. Even through the overcast, late last night, my favorite light still did shine on the postage stamp. Stay well. As always ….. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, Allsnow said: My thing had always been, Alaskas gain is our pain, and vice versa. When they are roasting -epo we score. We need that to change big time or we are already in life support. I don’t think we completely strike out like last year but it’s an uphill battle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 The issue with a pattern change in February is that you won’t get a long lasting snowpack. At most the snow sticks around for a week. when you get nice snow in December and early January you can get that glacier which sticks around for 30-40 days. so for me this winter already will fall short because we won’t have the chance for a long lasting snow pack 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMANLI Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Feb 2021 had 23 consecutive days with 1 " or more snow depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, psv88 said: The issue with a pattern change in February is that you won’t get a long lasting snowpack. At most the snow sticks around for a week. when you get nice snow in December and early January you can get that glacier which sticks around for 30-40 days. so for me this winter already will fall short because we won’t have the chance for a long lasting snow pack Few years ago had that massive pack for over a month. Remember had snow stuck in my wheel causing it to unbalance and it stayed like that for weeks. Unimaginable these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 5 hours ago, bluewave said: Heavy thunderstorms and low 40s later in the morning to heavy snow and 5-10” in the evening near the coast. CT STAMFORD 5 N COOP 10.0 NY BRONX COOP 9.9 NY YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W COOP 9.2 NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 9.0 NY OCEANSIDE COOP 8.0 NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 8.0 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 7.5 NY MINEOLA COOP 7.2 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 6.3 NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 6.0 NY SEA CLIFF COOP 6.0 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 5.7 NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 5.5 NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 5.1 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 5.0 NJ MIDLAND PARK COOP 5.0 wow look at the huge difference between JFK and Oceanside, you don't often see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, psv88 said: The issue with a pattern change in February is that you won’t get a long lasting snowpack. At most the snow sticks around for a week. when you get nice snow in December and early January you can get that glacier which sticks around for 30-40 days. so for me this winter already will fall short because we won’t have the chance for a long lasting snow pack Pattern is changing this week 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Merry Christmas, to my weather extended family. Been on this board since 2011, that’s a long time. Hope everyone had a nice day irregardless of religion. Pretty typical Christmas weather these days. To think it was -01 for my first Christmas… 1980? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: Pattern is changing this week close to new years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMANLI Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Breaks in clouds. 50° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkviking Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, psv88 said: The issue with a pattern change in February is that you won’t get a long lasting snowpack. At most the snow sticks around for a week. when you get nice snow in December and early January you can get that glacier which sticks around for 30-40 days. so for me this winter already will fall short because we won’t have the chance for a long lasting snow pack 2014-15, I was going to argue, had a long lasting snowpack after late January blizzard and I remember Port Jefferson harbor majority frozen with people able to walk out decently far on ice on March 1 (I have pictures.) but I get what you are saying - December is lost. And no matter what early January brings we probably lose it for several weeks until (unless?) SSWE effects possibly change the pattern. Still if we can approach average snowfall but do it within a few weeks that is a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 The issue with a pattern change in February is that you won’t get a long lasting snowpack. At most the snow sticks around for a week. when you get nice snow in December and early January you can get that glacier which sticks around for 30-40 days. so for me this winter already will fall short because we won’t have the chance for a long lasting snow pack We had over 48” in February 2021, and I was taking snow off my roof, so it can happen in the latter half of winter.Not as common, but I wouldn’t be bummed out because an uncommon occurrence didn’t materialize. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Minneapolis reached 54° today, breaking the daily record of 51° that was set in 1922. That followed yesterday's daily record high of 55°. This is the latest-season occurrence of two consecutive high temperatures of 54° or above. The previous record was set during December 6-7, 1939. Some of this milder air will be moving into the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. As a result, unseasonably mild weather is likely through the middle of the week. Generally warmer than normal conditions will likely prevail through most of the remainder of December. A transition to a colder pattern lies ahead. Somewhat colder air should begin moving into the region to close December. The first week of January will likely feature somewhat below normal temperatures. However, severe cold appears unlikely. Initially, the arrival of a colder regime could coincide with a drier one. The second week of January could offer better opportunities for snowfall, as the retreat of cold air could occur as the pattern becomes wetter. There remains some uncertainty concerning the magnitude and duration of the colder period that could develop. At this time, it appears more likely than not that it will be seasonably cold or somewhat colder than normal with a duration of 1-2 weeks. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.5°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +2.0°C for the week centered around December 13. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.85°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +1.95°C. A basinwide El Niño event is ongoing. El Niño conditions may strengthen somewhat further this month. The SOI was -9.13 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.340 today. Strong blocking in the final week of November, as occurred this year, has often been followed by frequent blocking in December and January. The latest GEFS shows a return to Atlantic blocking. On December 23 the MJO was in Phase 1 at an amplitude of 1.303 (RMM). The December 22-adjusted amplitude was 0.894 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 100% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal December (1991-2020 normal). December will likely finish with a mean temperature near 43.8° (4.7° above normal). That would tie December 2023 with December 2021 as the 3rd warmest December on record. With 2023 virtually certain to be among the 10 warmest Decembers on record, 60% of New York City's 10 warmest Decembers have occurred since 2000, including 40% since 2010, and all have occurred since 1980. Records go back to 1869. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: wow look at the huge difference between JFK and Oceanside, you don't often see that. Depends on where the station is. I had friends that lived by Merrick Rd and went to School 5 and they'd have delays when we didn't because they actually had snow on the ground but there was nothing more than some slush south of about Foxhurst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMANLI Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Minneapolis 52° and Rain on Christmas Day. Wow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinj Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The fog is no joke right now here in central Suffolk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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