December 2023

[Volcanic Winter]

  On 12/22/2023 at 2:04 PM, EastonSN+ said:

Yup, at least we had 20/21 which as a good winter. Outside of that pretty bad. 18/19 was ok in that it was slightly below average snowfall largely saved by March (also an 80s 90s feature).

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17/18 I just remember getting plastered by that early Jan storm which was amazing down my ways. 20/21 was better where I work, and then Jan 22 was a solid month though not for all which sucks. Rough otherwise. 

[jm1220]

People here forget when @bluewavewas honking as loud as anyone about the snowy patterns we’ve had. Just so happens our luck turned around and he’s calling that as he sees it. I’m sure he hopes we can figure something out this winter. His analysis is a treasure and I learn more every time he posts. If people don’t like it, sucks, but he hasn’t been wrong. And maybe read into it and learn vs complain. 

[STORMANLI]

  On 12/22/2023 at 1:49 PM, rclab said:

Good morning V W. I not sure why but after reading your post, I started humming that old 50 year ago Pattie Page tune, How Much Is That Doggie In The Window. Stay well, warm and uncut. As always ….

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21°

Is this where the phrase " There's a Nip in The Air" came from?

[EastonSN+]

  On 12/22/2023 at 2:22 PM, Volcanic Winter said:

17/18 I just remember getting plastered by that early Jan storm which was amazing down my ways. 20/21 was better where I work, and then Jan 22 was a solid month though not for all which sucks. Rough otherwise. 

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17/18 was my snowiest March/April in my areas history, and the 5th snowiest winter in my lifetime. I loved the epic heatwave in February too which was great and had a snowstorm in the middle of the warmth lol.

[bluewave]

  On 12/22/2023 at 1:48 PM, LibertyBell said:

it feels like we've been reliving the 80s the last few years

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We just exceeded any of the previous snow droughts with under 2 inches from 80s and late 90s. So Pacific has never been this hostile before. Hopefully, we can break this streak before the end of January. 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 2 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Rank	Run Length	Dates
Period of record: 1963-09-05 to 2023-12-21
1	676	2022-02-14 through 2023-12-21
2	631	1997-04-02 through 1998-12-23
3	358	1972-02-24 through 1973-02-15
4	355	1985-02-07 through 1986-01-27
5	348	1986-02-12 through 1987-01-25
6	342	2007-03-17 through 2008-02-21
7	339	2019-02-13 through 2020-01-17
-	339	2000-01-26 through 2000-12-29
-	339	1988-01-09 through 1988-12-12
8	333	2011-02-22 through 2012-01-20

[gravitylover]

Most of those were just a sort of early end to the snow season and a sort of late start to the next. Only one other is multi-year. That's significant. 

[psv88]

It’s never going to snow again 

[EastonSN+]

  On 12/22/2023 at 2:56 PM, bluewave said:

We just exceeded any of the previous snow droughts with under 2 inches from 80s and late 90s. So Pacific has never been this hostile before. Hopefully, we can break this streak before the end of January. 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 2 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Rank	Run Length	Dates
Period of record: 1963-09-05 to 2023-12-21
1	676	2022-02-14 through 2023-12-21
2	631	1997-04-02 through 1998-12-23
3	358	1972-02-24 through 1973-02-15
4	355	1985-02-07 through 1986-01-27
5	348	1986-02-12 through 1987-01-25
6	342	2007-03-17 through 2008-02-21
7	339	2019-02-13 through 2020-01-17
-	339	2000-01-26 through 2000-12-29
-	339	1988-01-09 through 1988-12-12
8	333	2011-02-22 through 2012-01-20

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Thanks for this,

Luck HAS to be a factor when comparing the two periods (90s to this one) as both were hostile background states.

I really really wish we had these stats preceding 1963 as my grandfather always told the story of getting a sled for Christmas and it did not snow at all the entire year LOL.

[jm1220]

  On 12/22/2023 at 3:17 PM, psv88 said:

It’s never going to snow again 

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And it started right after I moved to the North Shore.  

[LibertyBell]

  On 12/22/2023 at 3:23 PM, jm1220 said:

And it started right after I moved to the North Shore.  

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That's it then-- YOU MUST MOVE BACK!

 

[bluewave]

  On 12/22/2023 at 3:18 PM, EastonSN+ said:

Thanks for this,

Luck HAS to be a factor when comparing the two periods (90s to this one) as both were hostile background states.

I really really wish we had these stats preceding 1963 as my grandfather always told the story of getting a sled for Christmas and it did not snow at all the entire year LOL.

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1963 didn’t make the list for NYC but I can check other locations if you want.

 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 2 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Run Length	Dates
Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2023-12-21
1	691	2022-01-30 through 2023-12-21
2	685	1972-02-24 through 1974-01-08
3	521	1918-04-13 through 1919-09-15
4	416	1912-12-25 through 1914-02-13
5	406	1997-02-09 through 1998-03-21
6	386	1991-02-27 through 1992-03-18
-	386	1954-01-12 through 1955-02-01
8	385	1931-11-28 through 1932-12-16
9	377	1971-01-25 through 1972-02-05
10	366	2006-02-13 through 2007-02-13

[EastonSN+]

  On 12/22/2023 at 3:48 PM, bluewave said:

1963 didn’t make the list for NYC but I can check other locations if you want.

 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 2 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Run Length	Dates
Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2023-12-21
1	691	2022-01-30 through 2023-12-21
2	685	1972-02-24 through 1974-01-08
3	521	1918-04-13 through 1919-09-15
4	416	1912-12-25 through 1914-02-13
5	406	1997-02-09 through 1998-03-21
6	386	1991-02-27 through 1992-03-18
-	386	1954-01-12 through 1955-02-01
8	385	1931-11-28 through 1932-12-16
9	377	1971-01-25 through 1972-02-05
10	366	2006-02-13 through 2007-02-13

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Thanks. He was born in 1906 (lived to be 99), so #3 or #4 could have had been the period. Back then they had those wooded sleds with the metal runners.

[mannynyc]

Doesn't need to be a big piece storm to end NYC's snow drought. A well placed piece of energy can give us 1-2 inches and remove the lid.

[bluewave]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:21 PM, EastonSN+ said:

Thanks. He was born in 1906 (lived to be 99), so #3 or #4 could have had been the period. Back then they had those wooded sleds with the metal runners.

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Great story. I started out with one of those sleds back in the late 70s. Bethpage State Park was the place to go back then. But transitioned to one of the plastic sleds since the older sleds with the metal runners would tip over more. Plus you had to get out of the way pretty quickly with so many people going down the hills at once. 
 

[BxEngine]

  On 12/22/2023 at 2:22 PM, jm1220 said:

People here forget when @bluewavewas honking as loud as anyone about the snowy patterns we’ve had. Just so happens our luck turned around and he’s calling that as he sees it. I’m sure he hopes we can figure something out this winter. His analysis is a treasure and I learn more every time he posts. If people don’t like it, sucks, but he hasn’t been wrong. And maybe read into it and learn vs complain. 

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100%. We’re lucky for the trove of info bluewave, don s, sacrus, and other long time members bring to us. Without them this forum would be in even worse shape lol. 

[Allsnow]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:46 PM, BxEngine said:

100%. We’re lucky for the trove of info bluewave, don s, sacrus, and other long time members bring to us. Without them this forum would be in even worse shape lol. 

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You forgot to add @Allsnow but I agree with the above post 

 

haha 

[MJO812]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:52 PM, Allsnow said:

You forgot to add @Allsnow but I agree with the above post 

 

haha 

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And Metfan 

[wishcast_hater]

  On 12/22/2023 at 3:17 PM, psv88 said:

It’s never going to snow again 

I wish everyone who believed that would leave this board.


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[Volcanic Winter]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:52 PM, MJO812 said:

And Metfan 

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You’re the hype man. 

[Allsnow]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:54 PM, Volcanic Winter said:

You’re the hype man. 

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Believe it or not, but every forum that wants to be successful needs posters like Metfan 

[forkyfork]

you should have to explain the hypsometric equation to be able to post

[Volcanic Winter]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:56 PM, Allsnow said:

Believe it or not, but every forum that wants to be successful needs posters like Metfan 

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I legitimately envision him standing on a stack of pallets on his street corner with a megaphone going, “YO YOU GUYS SEE THE PATTERN COMING UP?? GFS SAYS 6-12”!!!”

And it makes me smile, lol. 

[Stormlover74]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:46 PM, BxEngine said:

100%. We’re lucky for the trove of info bluewave, don s, sacrus, and other long time members bring to us. Without them this forum would be in even worse shape lol. 

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Other forums (which shall remain nameless) are overrun with weenies. 

[bluewave]

  On 12/22/2023 at 1:02 PM, Allsnow said:

I don’t disagree, but it will still gives us opportunities to snow. Currently the chance is zero with the pac jet ext 

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With a little luck we can sneak in a better +PNA look like 12z instead of 6z.But we know these long range GFS OP runs always change. I think it will again come down to seeing if we can get at least a transient break from the trough out West. 
 

12z

 

6z

 

[psv88]

Just give me a 3 inch cold snowstorm. 

[MJO812]

  On 12/22/2023 at 5:00 PM, Volcanic Winter said:

I legitimately envision him standing on a stack of pallets on his street corner with a megaphone going, “YO YOU GUYS SEE THE PATTERN COMING UP?? GFS SAYS 6-12”!!!”

And it makes me smile, lol. 

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I do that 

[Allsnow]

  On 12/21/2023 at 12:58 PM, EastonSN+ said:

Now THIS is the COD lol.

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This map wasn’t correct yesterday…not sure why it updated like that.

 

Still a very strong wave in p3 which is why you’re seeing the -epo response 

[NorthShoreWx]

  On 12/22/2023 at 4:45 PM, bluewave said:

Great story. I started out with one of those sleds back in the late 70s. Bethpage State Park was the place to go back then. But transitioned to one of the plastic sleds since the older sleds with the metal runners would tip over more. Plus you had to get out of the way pretty quickly with so many people going down the hills at once. 
 

 

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My favorite sledding spot was the 15th hole on the black course.  They'd lock you up and throw away the key if you tried that now.

[vegan_edible]

  On 12/22/2023 at 5:24 PM, MJO812 said:

I do that 

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i'll supply the pallet if you do that in front of my works studio in gownaus, no one cares to hear me ramble about the pattern:/

[rclab]

Afternoon everyone. Would it help if the weenie emoji was changed to something like this? I used it in a reply to a forky post. Stay well all, as always ….