dryslot Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 12z Euro continues the model trend of ticking the front further east as the SLP rides along it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Why is climo such a tough concept to grasp and understand? Because 2000-2018 was a special stretch that's very unlikely to be duplicated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Why is climo such a tough concept to grasp and understand? Because people want snow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: There’s a bunch of posters like me, you, Will, Ray, Wolf , Dryslot etc that are on the edge. Folks just deal with it in different ways. For now patience.. if we are having this conversation Dec 23.. pain I'll be on the edge if we make it past NY without an imminent threat. I'm good right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Why is climo such a tough concept to grasp and understand? The fact is we (SNE) are wasting day after day of cold season basically snowless. It's the equivalent of being June 8th, temps still in the 60's with no heat in sight. Usually late May/June we're all looking forward to 80s and 90s. Folks shouldn't be panicked but certainly concerned. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 New euro clown: 12 Z GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, Torch Tiger said: The fact is we (SNE) are wasting day after day of cold season basically snowless. It's the equivalent of being June 8th, temps still in the 60's with no heat in sight. Usually late May/June we're all looking forward to 80s and 90s. Folks shouldn't be panicked but certainly concerned. Wasting what? Early to mid December climo blows big ones in most of SNE....always has. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 It like crying about a lame hurricane season on June 8th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Was 97-98 the super el nino year? I remember BM bombs....and it wasn't even close to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said: The fact is we (SNE) are wasting day after day of cold season basically snowless. It's the equivalent of being June 8th, temps still in the 60's with no heat in sight. Usually late May/June we're all looking forward to 80s and 90s. Folks shouldn't be panicked but certainly concerned. Exactly this yes 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Go Kart Mozart said: Was 97-98 the super el nino year? I remember BM bombs....and it wasn't even close to snow. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said: The fact is we (SNE) are wasting day after day of cold season basically snowless. It's the equivalent of being June 8th, temps still in the 60's with no heat in sight. Usually late May/June we're all looking forward to 80s and 90s. Folks shouldn't be panicked but certainly concerned. We're not wasting anything. What's the average Dec snowfall at the major climo sites around the region? It really isn't much 9 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Because people want snow? Well then they can wait until favorable climo periods then complain when it isn't happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Go Kart Mozart said: Was 97-98 the super el nino year? I remember BM bombs....and it wasn't even close to snow. 2/24/98 was a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Wasting what? Early to mid December climo blows big ones in most of SNE....always has. In La Niña it would be more concerning since December is supposed to be better during Ninas…but this year is obviously the opposite. The tropics are pretty telling so far this month…rotating the MJO through 4-5-6 is going to produce what we’re seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: There’s a bunch of posters like me, you, Will, Ray, Wolf , Dryslot etc that are on the edge. Folks just deal with it in different ways. For now patience.. if we are having this conversation Dec 23.. pain I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The 4 corners region low tracks are not the best pattern to be in for snow here in the majority of New England going back 30-60 and even 90 years. As Will stated, we need get the MJO to stop hovering around the 4, 5, and 6 zones. Storm track needs to originate from more of an upper Midwest area then dive southbound with the cold highs following. Not trailing well behind or coming in too soon to just to be moving out while a storm approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: You can basically summarize like this… if the much anticipated and widely forecast in many circles pattern change to more favorable with snow chances and sufficient cold beginning Xmas week and for Jan and Feb is delayed or pushed back or doesn’t happen or whatever , this place is going to lose it. That includes snowless SNE all the way up to NNE where much of area outside the Mtns sees the giant snow eraser Sunday night. There are a ton of posters( myself included) that are hoping and counting on it . Folks are already posting on eggshells. It had better happen or all hell will break loose. I've been checked out since late last season, and don't plan on checking back in anytime soon. I hope do for the sake of your own sanity that the pattern changes for you and that you see snow. I know it will make you happy, and for that... I am rooting for you. I want you to smile, and be able to make snow angels, and drink hot chocolate with your family while gazing out into the winter wonderland beyond your walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Why is climo such a tough concept to grasp and understand? There’s a proclivity on this forum to rush seasons, with no patience for the shoulder seasons. This desire for 90s and torches from May to October and then deep winter during the rest of the year leads to some interesting posting. No matter how many times people are told March is snowier, they want deep winter by 11/15. To be fair the desire is more to match the solar cycle while climo lag is what reality is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, weatherwiz said: Why is climo such a tough concept to grasp and understand? It’s like people that complain about the lack of severe weather up here. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: There’s a proclivity on this forum to rush seasons, with no patience for the shoulder seasons. This desire for 90s and torches from May to October and then deep winter during the rest of the year leads to some interesting posting. No matter how many times people are told March is snowier, they want deep winter by 11/15. To be fair the desire is more to match the solar cycle while climo lag is what reality is. Honestly, our region of the country has one of the longest lags…if people want the seasons to match the annual solar cycle, then they should move to the intermountain west. Many of them have their climo nadir in temps around mid to late December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: It’s like people that complain about the lack of severe weather up here. hey I accept it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovice Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: hey I accept it! The way we/all of us allow like 4 trolls to drive the entire narrative on this board day after day is more telling about a society/social media as a whole than anything else. It's legit fascinating to watch...literally year after year. Seasons in Seasons as 'they' say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I would not be surprised if we saw models start to back off on the intensity for things with the Sunday/Monday system. This is nothing more than just a seasonably strong cold front with multiple waves of low pressure developing along and traversing the front. Seems like models right now are going bonkers with one of the waves. I would expect that we do see some strengthening as the front moves east, but the core of the LLJ is going to remain off the coast. Far eastern Maine could certainly be in the game for some 55-65 mph wind gusts. In terms of the backside snow, meh...some areas may be lucky enough to see some snow on the backside but accumulations will be relatively minor. Maybe portions of far northern Maine get several inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Euro with a warm core low at the end of the run. We 12/24/94. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMainer Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, klw said: New euro clown: 12 Z GFS All I want for early Christmas present is a 60 mile shift southeast! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmtnwx Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 We aren’t the only ones suffering. My son is at school at Montana State University in Bozeman and the snow has been lean this year. Big sky is only now getting some snow but it’s been a really warm and dry start. Bridger can barely open . Bozeman locals saying it’s probably the worst they’ve seen, 50s in December. Although he did slip away to Grand Targhee last weekend where they got their typical couple of feet of powder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: In La Niña it would be more concerning since December is supposed to be better during Ninas…but this year is obviously the opposite. The tropics are pretty telling so far this month…rotating the MJO through 4-5-6 is going to produce what we’re seeing now. Name one person who didn't expect this? Lol This place is mind numbing. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 There looks too be a coastal low on the 23rd december- 24th ish it's showing up on the gfs a lot. If timing is right on this maybe a snowstorm. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, leo2000 said: There looks too be a coastal low on the 23rd december- 24th ish it's showing up on the gfs a lot. If timing is right on this maybe a snowstorm. WAY too early to be shopping for last minute Christmas gifts 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Euro sure is torched by D10..0c+ h85 line wayyyy into Canada with a low offshore. wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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