NW_of_GYX Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, dryslot said: Nothing recent, Just when they started framing back early summer, This will be that view, But i saw the Blue Prints. Hope it’s a local contractor getting paid handsomely for that build. Looks like it’s up off summit hill or thereabouts. Lot of nice view lots in Harrison and surrounding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Fwiw, the end of the run does have a pretty nice ALeutian low developing....but again, these things seem to change on a dime right now during this transition period Yeah, that much negative departure N/NNE of HA is dead ringer for a +PNA. The flow shape is certainly sending the +PNAP response, but it's weird having the nadir in the east still relatively mild like that. I wonder if the speed of the flow is stretching the wave signature.. That looks like an unstable variation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layman Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, FXWX said: Folks should go and read David Ludlum New England Weather Book... Wonderful sections on the winters of the 1700/1800 time span... You will come across quotes from journals and diaries written back then complaining about the lack of cold and snow compared to past winters... Is it this book? It's dirt cheap and sounds interesting. I'm going to grab it if it is. EDIT: I bought it regardless https://amzn.to/3RbQKIO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, FXWX said: Folks should go and read David Ludlum New England Weather Book... Wonderful sections on the winters of the 1700/1800 time span... You will come across quotes from journals and diaries written back then complaining about the lack of cold and snow compared to past winters... thanks John..puts things in perspective. Some realize this. Some do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol.the odds of a white Christmas have been constant since the 1800s Agreed Steve. But the agenda folks try to tell us otherwise. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokeupthisam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Well it is what it is I guess. When they wrote all the lyrics to all of the Xmas songs back in the day .. they must have had snow every year in December. Every Xmas song is about the worts December, icicles forming, mantles and blankets of white, sleigh bells . Ye were snowy times I think much of that came from Victorian era (Little Ice Age) stories and images, enshrined in songs and themes of Christmas that grew out of those. Dickens lived in a time when the Thames froze over and wrote "A Christmas Carol" reflecting a cold and snowy London in December. Newer jingles and stories have kept those snowy themes intact because it's so iconic, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, wokeupthisam said: I think much of that came from Victorian era (Little Ice Age) stories and images, enshrined in songs and themes of Christmas that grew out of those. Dickens lived in a time when the Thames froze over and wrote "A Christmas Carol" reflecting a cold and snowy London in December. Newer jingles and stories have kept those snowy themes intact because it's so iconic, I guess. If they ever wanted to do rewrites from our era .. it would be along the lines of Record snow melts, screamers, green Christmases , high dews, bikes and roller skates and the Grinch wearing shorts and a tee 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, Layman said: Is it this book? It's dirt cheap and sounds interesting. I'm going to grab it if it is. EDIT: I bought it regardless https://amzn.to/3RbQKIO Yes... It is a great book... Full of the history of New England weather from cold to heat, snowstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes. It's actually a great coffee table book. I've had it for 40 years and still thumb through it a few times a year... Highly recommended... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, FXWX said: Yes... It is a great book... Full of the history of New England weather from cold to heat, snowstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes. It's actually a great coffee table book. I've had it for 40 years and still thumb through it a few times a year... Highly recommended... He's a great author of that sort of write. I think he has others; shame on me for not owning any. If anyone is interested, try "Isaac's Storm" - Erik Larson. Fantastic read 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDRY Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, FXWX said: Folks should go and read David Ludlum New England Weather Book... Wonderful sections on the winters of the 1700/1800 time span... You will come across quotes from journals and diaries written back then complaining about the lack of cold and snow compared to past winters... Colonial weenies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, Layman said: Is it this book? It's dirt cheap and sounds interesting. I'm going to grab it if it is. EDIT: I bought it regardless https://amzn.to/3RbQKIO I'm going to order it too, does look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, FXWX said: Folks should go and read David Ludlum New England Weather Book... Wonderful sections on the winters of the 1700/1800 time span... You will come across quotes from journals and diaries written back then complaining about the lack of cold and snow compared to past winters... Many Christmases at CON with no sleighing. Maybe even a nice little grincher in there in 1866? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 So no snow up to thy knickers even back then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, dendrite said: Many Christmases at CON with no sleighing. Maybe even a nice little grincher in there in 1866? 1875 weenies jumping off Old Man on the Mountain ledge….couldn’t sleigh until 2/4. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, dendrite said: Many Christmases at CON with no sleighing. Maybe even a nice little grincher in there in 1866? Looks like constant snows began in Nov and they sleigh greatly into mid Napril . Every single year. What a winter lovers time to be alive ! A Ginx Christmasstory 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, dendrite said: Many Christmases at CON with no sleighing. Maybe even a nice little grincher in there in 1866? Love it... The telegraph weather forums were going crazy depressed settlers during some of those years... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXWX Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: He's a great author of that sort of write. I think he has others; shame on me for not owning any. If anyone is interested, try "Isaac's Storm" - Erik Larson. Fantastic read Yes indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: 1875 weenies jumping off Old Man on the Mountain ledge….couldn’t sleigh until 2/4. 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Looks like constant snows began in Nov and they sleigh greatly into mid Napril . Every single year. What a winter lovers time to be alive ! A Ginx Christmasstory These are not the same….lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, WinterWolf said: These are not the same….lol. He knows. This is his way to deal with no snow yet. It’s also CON he’s looking at and not CT…and even in the 1800s CON had plenty of duds. It’s true it’s a little easier now to have them, but not nearly to the degree which some in this thread proclaim. It’s not backed by the data. I’m pretty sure a chunk of weenies think that anything pre-1900 (or even pre-1950) was like a Quebec City climate in Boston….when in reality either period was still decently warmer than modern day ORH. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 So no snow up to thy knickers even back then?CCSent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol.the odds of a white Christmas have been constant since the 1800s Where did you pull this data from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 35 minutes ago, FXWX said: Love it... The telegraph weather forums were going crazy depressed settlers during some of those years... Lol I saw this telegraph from Taunton , MA beep beep meh beep meh beep beep meh beep rain beep beep meh 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, SJonesWX said: I saw this telegraph from Taunton , MA beep beep meh beep meh beep beep meh beep rain beep beep meh LMAO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said: He's a great author of that sort of write. I think he has others; shame on me for not owning any. If anyone is interested, try "Isaac's Storm" - Erik Larson. Fantastic read Anything by Larson is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 White Christmas was written by Irving Berlin from LA when he was lamenting the warm sunny LA wx. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I agree with Kev we may have to rewrite Christmas songs. We brought these dews to you ba rum ba bum bum…….. I’ve got no snow for you ba rum ba bum bum…… 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, WinterWolf said: Agreed Steve. But the agenda folks try to tell us otherwise. Show me the data you agree with. I’m not arguing one way or another, just interested in seeing the white christmas odds from 1800s-present. From what I read, 64% of the country has decreasing odds since 1980 while 31% have increased. 4% relatively unchanged. Source: noaa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: If they ever wanted to do rewrites from our era .. it would be along the lines of Record snow melts, screamers, green Christmases , high dews, bikes and roller skates and the Grinch wearing shorts and a tee Yes. Dickens might have written something like this: "It was the best of climes, it was the worst of climes..." 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, weathafella said: White Christmas was written by Irving Berlin from LA when he was lamenting the warm sunny LA wx. Happy Hanukkah Eve btw! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Show me the data you agree with. I’m not arguing one way or another, just interested in seeing the white christmas odds from 1800s-present. From what I read, 64% of the country has decreasing odds since 1980 while 31% have increased. 4% relatively unchanged. Source: noaa Luke, you and I agree on very little. And that’s all well and good. I agree with what Steve said…because it makes sense to me. Perhaps he has the data you’re seeking? I don’t know if he does. But I still agree with what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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