December 2023

[mreaves]

27 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

We hope.

 

Of course we're driving up the Quebec City late Tuesday night and staying in Old Quebec City ( they have a great set up for Christmas ). Drive back Friday. Watch me miss this..lol ( although I know they have some decent Snow up there already ).

I was there this weekend.  Not a lot of snow in the city.  It was pretty chilly especially with the wind.  The most snow I saw was in the Eastern Townships around Thetford Mines.  The city is nice in winter though.

[weathafella]

23 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

For some reason 12/5 always stuck in my head as a kid for the first snow, not always on that day but that's when I expected snow to start.

1957.  I believe the storm was 12/4-5.  In those days kids came home for lunch and my mother made a nice little lunch bday party for me having just turned 11 on the 1st.   It was cloudy with the sky lowering and clouds thickening but temperatures were a problem.   We ended up with a foot+ from the dynamic nature of the snow.  So yes-12/5 was seared into my memory early.  It was within a few days of that date the following year for our first meaningful snow.  50s/60s were early winters really lasting into the early 70s.

[tamarack]

7 minutes ago, weathafella said:

1957.  I believe the storm was 12/4-5.  In those days kids came home for lunch and my mother made a nice little lunch bday party for me having just turned 11 on the 1st.   It was cloudy with the sky lowering and clouds thickening but temperatures were a problem.   We ended up with a foot+ from the dynamic nature of the snow.  So yes-12/5 was seared into my memory early.  It was within a few days of that date the following year for our first meaningful snow.  50s/60s were early winters really lasting into the early 70s.

I don't recall that early Dec storm in 1957, though we must've gotten 8-10".  It's the cold blizzard on Feb 15-16 and the paste bomb on March 20-21 that stick in my memory.  The Dec storms I remember came in 1960 (of course), and the near-Christmas events in 61, 63, 66(!) and 69.

[dryslot]

32 minutes ago, weathafella said:

1957.  I believe the storm was 12/4-5.  In those days kids came home for lunch and my mother made a nice little lunch bday party for me having just turned 11 on the 1st.   It was cloudy with the sky lowering and clouds thickening but temperatures were a problem.   We ended up with a foot+ from the dynamic nature of the snow.  So yes-12/5 was seared into my memory early.  It was within a few days of that date the following year for our first meaningful snow.  50s/60s were early winters really lasting into the early 70s.

 

18 minutes ago, tamarack said:

I don't recall that early Dec storm in 1957, though we must've gotten 8-10".  It's the cold blizzard on Feb 15-16 and the paste bomb on March 20-21 that stick in my memory.  The Dec storms I remember came in 1960 (of course), and the near-Christmas events in 61, 63, 66(!) and 69.

[Snowcrazed71]

1 hour ago, mreaves said:

I was there this weekend.  Not a lot of snow in the city.  It was pretty chilly especially with the wind.  The most snow I saw was in the Eastern Townships around Thetford Mines.  The city is nice in winter though.

Wow... Thanks for the pictures. We have been there in the Summer but not in the Winter ... Looking forward to it ( maybe we will see some Snow fall while we are there next week ). 

 

 

[mreaves]

25 minutes ago, dryslot said:

 

 

[weathafella]

44 minutes ago, tamarack said:

I don't recall that early Dec storm in 1957, though we must've gotten 8-10".  It's the cold blizzard on Feb 15-16 and the paste bomb on March 20-21 that stick in my memory.  The Dec storms I remember came in 1960 (of course), and the near-Christmas events in 61, 63, 66(!) and 69.

The '66 Christmas event had my brother and I shoveling the front sidewalk of my Dad's pharmacy.  There was a wave of men dropping dead of heart disease then so if there were able bodied offspring they were the default shovelers.  It was nice snow-maybe 4-6 inches in the Englewood/Tenafly area.  Mostly occurred Christmas morning similar to 2017 here but not as cold.

[Typhoon Tip]

GFS trended better at 500 mb but decided to back off some of the Quebec +PP ...so the net result is a slightly warmer solution - still marginal ... and not a grouser solution considering the time range.

CMC went more sfc PP up N.  Slightly cooler at the surface with more secondary but it's still just +1C on the wrong side of marginal.  Again...nothing tormenting from this range.

The GEFs as I have seen them are only out 156 hours as of this typing ... interestingly more impressive with western hgts aft of the trough ejection - that's likely to ( or should) cause more amp conserved coming east/ more coherent signal near the ~ D. Marv to BM

[tamarack]

2 hours ago, weathafella said:

The '66 Christmas event had my brother and I shoveling the front sidewalk of my Dad's pharmacy.  There was a wave of men dropping dead of heart disease then so if there were able bodied offspring they were the default shovelers.  It was nice snow-maybe 4-6 inches in the Englewood/Tenafly area.  Mostly occurred Christmas morning similar to 2017 here but not as cold.

We had close to 15" and mostly on the 24th.  I'd gone partridge/squirrel hunting mid-morning in light snow, and when I got to the 345kv towers a mile south of the house, I could hear the flakes being vaporized by the lines.  On the way home, game-less, the snow became heavy, and I heard a booming sound.  While trying to guess what had caused it (because, of course, it can't thunder in a snowstorm), a second boom of obvious thunder corrected my assumption.  That winter added up to about 100", the final 3 on April 27.

[WinterWolf]

Lol, first flakes here..little flurry happening. 

[DavisStraight]

I wasn't born until 61 but I remember being about 6-7 years old and sitting on my sled waiting for the snow to pile up. Don't have a great memory but 4-5 inches is what I recall.

[ORH_wxman]

Nice hit for CNE/NNE on euro for 12/3-4 system. A pinch colder and we can get SNE into the game. 
 

There’s likely going to be another chance though behind that system. Lot of shortwaves in the flow. 

[brooklynwx99]

would be nice if there was enough wave spacing for the backside wave to amplify

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

Lol, first flakes here..little flurry happening. 

I have yet to see a flake, aside from some the ones I'll observe on Saturday.

[40/70 Benchmark]

17 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

would be nice if there was enough wave spacing for the backside wave to amplify

That is correctable.

[brooklynwx99]

4 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

That is correctable.

this is very close. nice 50/50 in place too

[Damage In Tolland]

25 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Nice hit for CNE/NNE on euro for 12/3-4 system. A pinch colder and we can get SNE into the game. 
 

There’s likely going to be another chance though behind that system. Lot of shortwaves in the flow. 

Here it comes 

[ORH_wxman]

Euro is a close miss for a follow up wave on Dec 6-7. So that’s one we may have to watch as well. 
 

Still think 12/3-4 is a heavy lift for SNE big snow, but not so much for NNE. 

[NorEastermass128]

10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Euro is a close miss for a follow up wave on Dec 6-7. So that’s one we may have to watch as well. 
 

Still think 12/3-4 is a heavy lift for SNE big snow, but not so much for NNE. 

Define “big” snow. A solid coating would make it a top 3 event last season. 

[RDRY]

26 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Euro is a close miss for a follow up wave on Dec 6-7. So that’s one we may have to watch as well. 
 

Still think 12/3-4 is a heavy lift for SNE big snow, but not so much for NNE. 

Hope the Berks can sneak that one out. A near-shutout so far.

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 minute ago, RDRY said:

Hope the Berks can sneak that one out. A near-shutout so far.

I'll be praying for the summit of Deer Scrotum a few miles over yonder from Berkshire park.

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I'll be praying for the summit of Deer Scrotum a few miles over yonder from Berkshire park.

NB

[CoastalWx]

EPS like day 6. But as many of us mentioned...lots of s/w's in the flow. That's going to be tough for modeling...but at least there's some bullets in the chamber.

[40/70 Benchmark]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

NB

Visibility 1/10 of a mile in blowing indifference.

[40/70 Benchmark]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS like day 6. But as many of us mentioned...lots of s/w's in the flow. That's going to be tough for modeling...but at least there's some bullets in the chamber.

That is the type of pattern where a system can pop at day 2 or 3....regardless of rain vs snow.

[Damage In Tolland]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS like day 6. But as many of us mentioned...lots of s/w's in the flow. That's going to be tough for modeling...but at least there's some bullets in the chamber.

She hard 

[ORH_wxman]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS like day 6. But as many of us mentioned...lots of s/w's in the flow. That's going to be tough for modeling...but at least there's some bullets in the chamber.

There’s some good members in there…esp for northern half of SNE. But a few get everyone. At least there’s a reason to look at guidance inside of D7 right now. 

[CoastalWx]

4 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

That is the type of pattern where a system can pop at day 2 or 3....regardless of rain vs snow.

 

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

There’s some good members in there…esp for northern half of SNE. But a few get everyone. At least there’s a reason to look at guidance inside of D7 right now. 

Finally a high that is not modeled to move over a pod of right whales south of Nova Scotia. 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

There’s some good members in there…esp for northern half of SNE. But a few get everyone. At least there’s a reason to look at guidance inside of D7 right now. 

I think the follow up wave that was being discussed early would be preferable to many in SNE. First one is going to need a Hail Mary.

Im sure Hubb will be “surprised” by 4 or 5 inches of snow though with that first deal 

[CoastalWx]

Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

I think the follow up wave that was being discussed early would be preferable to many in SNE. First one is going to need a Hail Mary.

Im sure Hubb will be “surprised” by 4 or 5 inches of snow though with that first deal 

Expectations low for you and I naturally...but I don't necessarily hate it for sure. If Ray got 10" and I had 2-3" of mashed...fine by me.