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51 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said:

Dear Mother Nature

Please blanket the entire region with a few inches of snow so most folks will be happier. Please stop these SE Screamers.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely 

Codfishsnowman 

Well done cfs. From your lips to ……. Stay well, as always ….

 

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3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Weeklies are gorgeous 

I'm just not sure what to have faith in anymore. Definitely not being negative, as I'll be happy even if we get one big snow event. I just don't understand how the models have been so volatile where they go from one extreme to the other and the course of a day or two. It's hard to get consistency. I can't wait to see everyone's reactions when we finally do get something legit. This place will be like kids jumping into ice cream lol

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1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Beautiful gfs run

I was actually mildly optimistic that the run was good looking , then I looked lol

Sometimes I wonder if you’re looking at the models upside down or if you moved to Greenland. 
 

That run has a double cutter on the 27-29 that rains to Quebec on the first pass and then leaves enough energy that a coastal low comes in and rains to Quebec again a day later . That is out to 240 hours 

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2 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

I was actually mildly optimistic that the run was good looking , then I looked lol

Sometimes I wonder if you’re looking at the models upside down or if you moved to Greenland. 
 

That run has a double cutter on the 27-29 that rains to Quebec on the first pass and then leaves enough energy that a coastal low comes in and rains to Quebec again a day later . That is out to 240 hours 

At least there won’t be snow to wash away. 

Anyway, it could be a thread the needle snow chance for the interior. 

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7 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

I was going to post that too, but I didn’t want to give them any more recognition…but you’re right. 

Totally true. You know I've responded to a couple of them and went up erasing my post because I don't want to stoop down and give them the fuel that they're looking for. We just need to cut them out and stop talking about them all together.

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9 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

that trend towards more of a +PNA as we creep into the more standard long range is also the exact opposite of what we saw last year. makes sense given that we're in a Nino now

Your analysis is excellent. We appreciate your contribution here.  This is nothing like last year. Anybody with any common sense in the weather realm, can see and understand this.  Thanks for posting. :thumbsup:

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18z GFS ends (on Jan 4 2024) with a setup that looks like the next 36h of its run would turn into a large east coast winter storm, about like it was doing ten days ago for Dec 26-27 (which has degraded into the double rainer scenario). The difference could be that a lot more cold air is in place for this fantasy output. A long slow slide into deep winter is what I would expect and Dec will not be repeated in Jan or early Feb. Later Feb, possibly back to torch, but after a reasonable stretch of winter. 

 

DOUBLE RAINER

DEUBLE DAINER

DEBBLE DOINER

DEBBIE DOWNER

(fun with words)

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2 hours ago, Blue Dream said:

Snowman19 is obsessed with you bro

I can't figure out whether some of these dudes like snow or not.....like in real life when you can't quite wrap your mind around someone's sexual preference...it's just a mystery. Snowman and ALLsnow are like that with me....they either don't like snow, or have some of the most deeply entrenched compensatory defensive proclivities ever observed. Like "I love snow so much that I can't tolerate the thought of not getting it again, so let me "act out" against anyone that dares to entertain the notion of cold and snow". lol

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On 12/5/2023 at 9:48 PM, brooklynwx99 said:

pretty nice to see the GEFS in such lock step agreement with the beginning of the weeklies. modeling has been very consistent on the 20-25th for a pretty wholesale change of the pattern

hasn’t been getting pushed back, either

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20-25th still looking good for a large scale pattern change?

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34 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

that trend towards more of a +PNA as we creep into the more standard long range is also the exact opposite of what we saw last year. makes sense given that we're in a Nino now

My knowledge of the MJO is still pretty garbage so my thoughts here are more me thinking in my head to understand, but too me it seems like these slow changes we're seeing within guidance are very closely related to MJO progression being modeled. IMO, the MJO almost certainly will eventually move into more favorable phases. People can say whatever about how these pattern changes keep getting pushed back and use that as a means to say winter suck but that is just not meteorologically correct. 

I understand the MJO is not a driver and more of a modulator so I'm not saying the MJO will be driving the pattern but I think it's been pretty apparent how the MJO has modulated the pattern and how it will do so moving forward. People want to scream Dec had no chance b/c of typical strong EL Nino climo...well the same people (the trolls) better start mentioning the fact how as we move through EL Nino winters there is a tendency to have a better pattern in the NPAC and increased potential for blocking. We're beginning to see the slow trends towards the more favorable PAC and the MJO is slowly propagating into a more favorable phase pattern. 

I am fairly confident we're going to get very busy. Now I can't guarantee that means everyone sees snow or we don't have mixing to deal with but there will be people who cash in.

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