ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:22 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: Peak Cold ? Climo now in Intra mountain west , why would they be over a month ahead of us Expand They don;t have the lag we do out there in most spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:21 PM, WxWatcher007 said: I’m too young to remember this storm of yore Expand Remember it well. Gloucester 28"?? WTF.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:26 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Remember it well. Gloucester 28"?? WTF.... Expand I think that report was Ipswich, MA....I always discounted it because it was such an outlier. I also feel like their map was light over interior N Middlesex county where most places had around 18-20" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:26 PM, ORH_wxman said: They don;t have the lag we do out there in most spots. Expand I just checked Denver average temps and saw December had the coldest average highs . What drives that difference in less lag time with regard to sun angle ? Elevation ? Or do they respond very fast on the other end (improving sun angle in mid to late winter ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:28 PM, ORH_wxman said: I think that report was Ipswich, MA....I always discounted it because it was such an outlier. I also feel like their map was light over interior N Middlesex county where most places had around 18-20" Expand Yea, that map is crap....yours look great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:28 PM, ORH_wxman said: I think that report was Ipswich, MA....I always discounted it because it was such an outlier. I also feel like their map was light over interior N Middlesex county where most places had around 18-20" Expand Their CT map is terrible too. I measured 18” at my wife’s parents house after that . I had 6” in Vernon and remember driving up there in disbelief. So many trees and lines down . Where have these types of storms gone? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:36 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Their CT map is terrible too. I measured 18” at my wife’s parents house after that . I had 6” in Vernon and remember driving up there in disbelief. So many trees and lines down . Where have these types of storms gone? Expand Hibernation....just like they had during the decade leading up to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:39 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Hibernation....just like they had during the decade leading up to that one. Expand That was the last one . 31 years is not normal . Just like we don’t get canes anymore . Something is going on . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 10:43 PM, DavisStraight said: I remember a real bad year here they were setting records, that's why I look up there sometimes. Was it 2012 we were in the 70s in March? Expand Yeah I think they probably had over 400 inches in 2011-12. But even when it’s good here they get way more than we can even fantasize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:43 PM, Damage In Tolland said: That was the last one . 31 years is not normal . Just like we don’t get canes anymore . Something is going on . Expand The south shore has had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:43 PM, Damage In Tolland said: That was the last one . 31 years is not normal . Just like we don’t get canes anymore . Something is going on . Expand Well, I feel like that kind of coastal devastation again so soon on the heels of the Blizzard of '78 and the Perfect Storm was the anomaly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:45 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Well, I feel like that kind of coastal devastation again so soon on the heels of the Blizzard of '78 and the Perfect Storm was the anomaly. Expand Yeah those storms don't come often. That wasn't just wet snow, it was coastal and fresh water flooding along with wind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:21 PM, CoastalWx said: I have my daughter's Barbie dream house that I'm ready to kick through the uprights at Weymouth HS football field. Expand We got my niece some Barbie dream house thing for Christmas. I’m ready to toss it off the 138 overpass onto 495. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:28 PM, ORH_wxman said: I think that report was Ipswich, MA....I always discounted it because it was such an outlier. I also feel like their map was light over interior N Middlesex county where most places had around 18-20" Expand Great storm to the coast here in SW CT. Rain followed by heavy wet snow. Measured 6 in Norwalk CT coastal CT Ct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:43 PM, Damage In Tolland said: That was the last one . 31 years is not normal . Just like we don’t get canes anymore . Something is going on . Expand Huh? Dec '92 was a generational storm...they aren't supposed to be common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:49 PM, EastonSN+ said: Great storm to the coast here in SW CT. Rain followed by heavy wet snow. Measured 6 in Norwalk CT coastal CT Ct. Expand Winds were extreme-damage to the shoreline here was comparable to Sandy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 We had some solid coastals pretty frequently last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:48 PM, CoastalWx said: Yeah those storms don't come often. That wasn't just wet snow, it was coastal and fresh water flooding along with wind. Expand If Euros right, we’ll get the rainy version of it Sunday nite/ Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 A lot of the members seem closer to elbow of the Cape vs the op track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:49 PM, ORH_wxman said: Huh? Dec '92 was a generational storm...they aren't supposed to be common. Expand I understand that aspect of it but we just don’t get these tremendous elevation storms like we used to . I don’t mean ones like MLK where I lost it or a 3” event . I mean storms where the hills get 12-16” and the valley and coasts get half or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:08 PM, CoastalWx said: A lot of the members seem closer to elbow of the Cape vs the op track. Expand Would that offer a slightly better flip to snow if as strong as op just east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:08 PM, CoastalWx said: A lot of the members seem closer to elbow of the Cape vs the op track. Expand Theres about 3-4 miracle solutions in the EPS that change it to heavy snow in western New England and New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:09 PM, Damage In Tolland said: I understand that aspect of it but we just don’t get these tremendous elevation storms like we used to . I don’t mean ones like MLK where I lost it or a 3” event . I mean storms where the hills get 12-16” and the valley and coasts get half or less. Expand There were about 4 of those in S NH last year . Skunked in ASH , temple to mont Vernon buried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:08 PM, CoastalWx said: A lot of the members seem closer to elbow of the Cape vs the op track. Expand PF better post extremely carefully if he snows in modeled coastal . Maybe even apologizing for his dentrites and saying he doesn’t like them 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:17 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: There were about 4 of those in S NH last year . Skunked in ASH , temple to mont Vernon buried Expand Well maybe I should just have said when it used to snow here then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:22 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Well maybe I should just have said when it used to here then Expand I don’t think they happen as often as you think they do. It’s more like you get a 2-4” event and valley or coast gets little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 4:44 PM, yoda said: DCA - 0.1" Expand Which occurred the day after I posted or at least recorded for public consumption. Congrats. Boston still wins with double. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:25 PM, weathafella said: Which occurred the day after I posted or at least recorded for public consumption. Congrats. Boston still wins with double. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:24 PM, CoastalWx said: I don’t think they happen as often as you think they do. It’s more like you get a 2-4” event and valley or coast gets little. Expand It just seems like so many storms now are 27-28 powder inland and your area loses half the pine population with paste. I realize if it’s paste here, you’re rain .. but they just don’t happen as much as they used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 3:29 PM, Damage In Tolland said: It just seems like so many storms now are 27-28 powder inland and your area loses half the pine population with paste. I realize if it’s paste here, you’re rain .. but they just don’t happen as much as they used to. Expand I dunno, we've had some paste bombs recently inland....Mar 2023 (though I know your area mostly missed that...it was more ORH county)....Mar 7-8, 2018 was one. 12/5/20 was a 10" paste bomb in ORH....I think you mixed a lot but still had 6 or 7". Those are all in the last 5-6 years. Feb 1, 2021 was pretty pasty for the second half of the storm....coast got skunked pretty bad. But if you're looking for 20-30" of paste inland, you aren't going to find it very often....Dec '92 is the top example. Be glad you lived to see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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