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1 hour ago, Stormpc said:

Exactly.  That's the most believable possible, snowy solution. And just think how many elements have to come together at exactly the same time in order to produce that. That would be epic. And one heck of a stroke of luck.

 Our area is due the most, would love to get a March 1980 blizzard redux. Btw, there were some huge hits on the 18z GEFS as well. 

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3 hours ago, ldub23 said:

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Could be just me, but I am not able to see what you posted, @ldub23.

Meanwhile, after reviewing the overnight and morning models, there is still a storm signal for the February 4th to 6th timeframe, but it isn't as impressive as yesterday (i.e. not as many hits). But there is still plenty of time to monitor. Hopefully today is an improvement. 

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Today's 12z operational GFS is still south with the 2/4 to 2/6 low. Will be interesting to see how the ensembles look. 

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We need the upper low over the Canadian Maritimes (A) further east so the low in the gulf (B) can amplify and come north. 

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The 12z GFS was farther north than the 6z run so there is that. 

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36 minutes ago, RIC Airport said:

Today's 12z operational GFS is still south with the 2/4 to 2/6 low. Will be interesting to see how the ensembles look. 

We need the upper low over the Canadian Maritimes (A) further east so the low in the gulf (B) can amplify and come north. The 12z GFS was farther north than the 6z run so there is that. 

Canadian got it done just in time. Similar to EURO. 

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31 minutes ago, Stormpc said:

Canadian got it done just in time. Similar to EURO. 

There is a lot of spread on the models, it's good that the farther north solutions are still showing up.

The 12Z GEFS had a mixed breed of solutions. A couple hits, some southern misses, and even quite a few rainy members. You can see why the 50th percentile is so empty because only a couple members are driving up the mean. 

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3 minutes ago, RIC Airport said:

The 12z euro was still close to something big, but still gets shredded and is too far south and east. 

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Hopefully ensemble members will show it further north.  That ULL near New England is causing the suppressed look.  GEM showed a flush hit here.  

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2 minutes ago, RIC Airport said:

 

Certainly nothing like yesterday. 

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Still  plenty of time but not trending well.  GFS Ensembles are  better. Unfortunately GFS usually follows the EURO. May need to wait for pattern change around 15th until we track anything promising. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Conway7305 said:

Still  plenty of time but not trending well.  GFS Ensembles are  better. Unfortunately GFS usually follows the EURO. May need to wait for pattern change around 15th until we track anything promising. 

 

Waiting till after the  normals start rising isnt  ideal. 

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20 minutes ago, Conway7305 said:

Still  plenty of time but not trending well.  GFS Ensembles are  better. Unfortunately GFS usually follows the EURO. May need to wait for pattern change around 15th until we track anything promising. 

5 minutes ago, ldub23 said:

Waiting till after the  normals start rising isnt  ideal. 

Trend definitely isn’t good. 
 

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Agreed, Feb 4-5 north trend is too warm “at the moment”  Catch 22.  Colder = Supression,  Warmer if storm is north.  Maybe a coastal low can bring in colder air. 

Longer Term, NAO really just needs to go negative to help us.  It  positive now trending neutral through Feb 15th. Weeklies still  ok on pattern change but  only after the 15th and will take time to get cold air established.

 Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t start tracking legit opportunities until after  Feb 20th. 

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Re 2/5-2/6...If it gets this for North it's going to be rain. As it looks right now. Still looking like pattern change around mid-month but again that's over two weeks away still. We'll take what we can get between now and then. At least something to look at especially for you folks in the Richmond area and north. If anything I'm getting either some rain or a lot of wind driven rain with this. Not much difference down here. A few cold air damming situations pop up on those ensembles.  But Not many. From now till mid month looks to be a gradual step down with a little roller coaster in temperatures until that block gets established north of the maritimes. At least that's what it looks like right now. @RIC Airport can delve deeper into the euro and ensembles later.

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2 hours ago, Stormpc said:

Re 2/5-2/6...If it gets this for North it's going to be rain. As it looks right now. Still looking like pattern change around mid-month but again that's over two weeks away still. We'll take what we can get between now and then. At least something to look at especially for you folks in the Richmond area and north. If anything I'm getting either some rain or a lot of wind driven rain with this. Not much difference down here. A few cold air damming situations pop up on those ensembles.  But Not many. From now till mid month looks to be a gradual step down with a little roller coaster in temperatures until that block gets established north of the maritimes. At least that's what it looks like right now. @RIC Airport can delve deeper into the euro and ensembles later.

There is still potential for 2/5, but I became uninvested after yesterday's 12Z runs. Today's 12Z EPS only had 1-2 good hits, even fewer than yesterday and the day before, so the trend has not been great. 

Meanwhile, today's updated weeklies continue to sing the same tune for late February into March. That's really the only thing we can ask for at this juncture, with the hopes the pattern will deliver for our area. I do not see the need to cancel the winter. 

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