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Richmond Metro/Hampton Roads Area Discussion


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1 minute ago, JFLETCHER said:

At the end of the day, GFS is caving to the King Euro

Seems that way. It will be colder for longer up your way before any mixing.

RIC starts to have a warm layer creeping in at 850mb around hour 36, 1 am Monday.

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6 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

Hello 4 hours ago lol jk

Tbh I think I have a permanent skepticism here unless it actually happens. Can’t blame me. The rug has been pulled too many times to count in the last 5 years. 

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No significant changes on the 18z Euro. RIC does rise above freezing between 11am and 4pm Monday before falling below freezing ahead of the back end snow. 

EDIT: There was a small shift northward with the snowfall axis compared to 12z. 

 

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5 minutes ago, RIC Airport said:

No significant changes on the 18z Euro. RIC does rise above freezing between 11am and 4pm Monday before falling below freezing ahead of the back end snow. 

EDIT: There was a small shift northward with the snowfall axis compared to 12z. 

 

If you have an opportunity can you do the comparison thing again only if you can please

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6 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

NAM way better than 18z. Can we be honest?? Like really honest?? NAM is JUST coming into range and HRRR and SREF's are just terrible weather models period. Even during storms!

Stuff on the back side definitely looks better, which to me is the important part since it’s the stuff that will stick around.

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8 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

NAM way better than 18z. Can we be honest?? Like really honest?? NAM is JUST coming into range and HRRR and SREF's are just terrible weather models period. Even during storms!

yeah NAM did look better especially on back side.  

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It is crazy the discrepancy in models still, Euro, RGEM and Ukie, all have the heavy snow band much further south. At what point do we begin trusting the short range models over GFS and Euro? 

2 minutes ago, RIC Airport said:

Been a while since we've been screwed this bad. 

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2 minutes ago, Conway7305 said:

It is crazy the discrepancy in models still, Euro, RGEM and Ukie, all have the heavy snow band much further south. At what point do we begin trusting the short range models over GFS and Euro? 

 

Straight faced-we don't.  And then we can grade on Tuesday afternoon and we will lol

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2 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

1-It's just one model vs many others now

2-Not a great model 

3-We are improved from 18z with it

I like your optimism, but I'm just reading the room. Every model has the axis of snow well north of us. Every model has us flipping to IP/ZR and rain for a short while. So we get possibly 1-2" of snow, followed by slop that turns into slush, and then we'll be begging for the back end snow to fall in the right places to provide another 1-2"? 

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