Yesvember or November?

[Ginx snewx]

35 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Or 5  

I winterized the tractor and backpack blower . Pulled snowblower out of shed and it started on first pull. Snow is coming soon . 

Struggled with the blower but finally working fine.

[Damage In Tolland]

24 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

Ill be doing all that tomorrow, my back was barking so had to rest. 37 for the high so a nice day to work outside.

It’s such a nice feeling. Looking out .. all Oaks down.. not one leaf on the lawn. The anticipation of a solid winter ahead 

[Damage In Tolland]

23 minutes ago, 512high said:

Agreed, I did my final cleanup as well, however, I still have a few trees way out back holding on a few, but enough is enough. I put that blower away, snow blower oil change and go over was done a few weeks ago....we await.

Heavy heavy snow.. heavier IPA’s 

[Layman]

1 hour ago, OceanStWx said:

It's not that we don't care, it's that we can only do so much. The only reason ASOS exists is for FAA flight purposes, and they don't care about temps, so the tolerance is like +/- 2 degrees. So if temps are still falling within that range the equipment is not malfunctioning and not in need of repair. With the budgets being they way they are, we definitely can't go replacing equipment that isn't in need of it. Then if an ASOS does break, it's more likely it will just be down until a replacement part arrives.

Does current climate data come from these ASOS sites?

[SJonesWX]

final leaf cleanup today. was a bit chilly, and got a little chillier after throwing down a few beers. Will drop winter fertilizer tomorrow.  
was kind of fun mowing over a couple small parts of the lawn that still had a bit of snow on them. now I need to wait till the equipment dries out before I put it to bed for the winter..

[OceanStWx]

31 minutes ago, Layman said:

Does current climate data come from these ASOS sites?

The global climate dataset is more complicated than just ASOS, but the climate section of the NWS website is almost all ASOS. There are a handful of climate observations that are manual obs (for instance the Gray observation is taken here at our office which has no ASOS).

[Eskimo Joe]

27 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

The global climate dataset is more complicated than just ASOS, but the climate section of the NWS website is almost all ASOS. There are a handful of climate observations that are manual obs (for instance the Gray observation is taken here at our office which has no ASOS).

With more states launching mesonets, I wonder if a mesonet site will qualify for climate data someday.

[WinterWolf]

2 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

The global climate dataset is more complicated than just ASOS, but the climate section of the NWS website is almost all ASOS. There are a handful of climate observations that are manual obs (for instance the Gray observation is taken here at our office which has no ASOS).

So if the climate section of NWS is almost all ASOS,  then how can we even remotely trust the whole temp thing in this country..when lots of them are off? Which most of us with a brain already know anyway.  
 

And I get it…if they are within +/- 2 degrees like you said, you don’t/or have the resources to check them.  Then It’s a joke overall.  Pretty Comical. 

[ORH_wxman]

33 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

So if the climate section of NWS is almost all ASOS,  then how can we even remotely trust the whole temp thing in this country..when lots of them are off? Which most of us with a brain already know anyway.  
 

And I get it…if they are within +/- 2 degrees like you said, you don’t/or have the resources to check them.  Then It’s a joke overall.  Pretty Comical. 

Errors theoretically should cancel out if they are random…some will be too warm and some too cold. There’s so many asos stations that we have a very good idea of larger scale temperature trends. 
 

But a corrupted ASOS at ORH for example is a major problem if we want to analyze temperature trends at that one spot. We’ll see a spurious jump in temps starting around 2020 that isn’t real. 

[Go Kart Mozart]

Check out Iowa State vs. Kansas State on TV, snow game!

[weathafella]

31 minutes ago, Go Kart Mozart said:

Check out Iowa State vs. Kansas State on TV, snow game!

I-70 belt in KS getting 2-4 tonight.

[OceanStWx]

10 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

So if the climate section of NWS is almost all ASOS,  then how can we even remotely trust the whole temp thing in this country..when lots of them are off? Which most of us with a brain already know anyway.  
 

And I get it…if they are within +/- 2 degrees like you said, you don’t/or have the resources to check them.  Then It’s a joke overall.  Pretty Comical. 

Well there are more sources than just NWS CLI sites. And even dozens of climate sites running warm or cold will be washed out by the shear number of observations (plus you have some ASOSs running warm, others running cold also washing out).

[OceanStWx]

53 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Errors theoretically should cancel out if they are random…some will be too warm and some too cold. There’s so many asos stations that we have a very good idea of larger scale temperature trends. 
 

But a corrupted ASOS at ORH for example is a major problem if we want to analyze temperature trends at that one spot. We’ll see a spurious jump in temps starting around 2020 that isn’t real. 

It's pretty comical how thin the supplies are sometimes. Like the whole radar service life extension program (SLEP). We had like two extra pedestals for the whole country, so we leapfrogged teams around the nation refurbishing. Give CAR the spare pedestal, refurbish theirs, give it to GYX, refurbish GYX's old pedestal, give it to BTV, etc. 

[Damage In Tolland]

18 minutes ago, weathafella said:

I-70 belt in KS getting 2-4 tonight.

6-8”

[CoastalWx]

+\- 2. Let’s get the airplane to slide off the runway with ASOS temps of 34F. Sounds reasonable.

[Snowcrazed71]

13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

6-8”

Not seeing that for Kansas City. Just back to their west southwest in Topeka, who's under a winter storm warning, they're going to see three to five inches inches. Think KC they're only expecting up to 4" in Kansas City at the most. At least that's what it looks like at the moment. 

[radarman]

18 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

It's pretty comical how thin the supplies are sometimes. Like the whole radar service life extension program (SLEP). We had like two extra pedestals for the whole country, so we leapfrogged teams around the nation refurbishing. Give CAR the spare pedestal, refurbish theirs, give it to GYX, refurbish GYX's old pedestal, give it to BTV, etc. 

It's a smart move as long as the holes are all drilled straight.  I've been waiting 12 mos for a refurbishment, with no spare

[OceanStWx]

8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

+\- 2. Let’s get the airplane to slide off the runway with ASOS temps of 34F. Sounds reasonable.

We're one Sandy away from a regional mesonet!

[CoastalWx]

19 at 9pm at MVY

[OceanStWx]

6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

19 at 9pm at MVY

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, OceanStWx said:

Mount up 

[WinterWolf]

15 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

19 at 9pm at MVY

That place is a sand pit…

[dryslot]

20.5F that ring around the moon though.

[OceanStWx]

Sneaky little system Mon. Quickly developing low kind of cuts off the LLJ for GYX, but HRRR is developing a little stinger that may clip the Cape. And Downeast should rock, might even be trying to model some gravity waves in there.

[Childude645]

17 MVY


.

[CoastalWx]

15 MVY 

[Ginx snewx]

8 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

It's pretty comical how thin the supplies are sometimes. Like the whole radar service life extension program (SLEP). We had like two extra pedestals for the whole country, so we leapfrogged teams around the nation refurbishing. Give CAR the spare pedestal, refurbish theirs, give it to GYX, refurbish GYX's old pedestal, give it to BTV, etc. 

Instead of millions funneled to the climate research side maybe take care of the here and now.  

[Ginx snewx]

6 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

Sneaky little system Mon. Quickly developing low kind of cuts off the LLJ for GYX, but HRRR is developing a little stinger that may clip the Cape. And Downeast should rock, might even be trying to model some gravity waves in there.

Ooh wish we had some CAD we could pull off a 12/9/05 

[powderfreak]

17F.

Tonight looks like it could be a fairly decent elevation snow event for parts of VT and especially NH/ME.

[kdxken]