Chris78 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Terpeast said: I preferred Doug Hill over Bob Ryan. Ryan used to always downplay big storms and completely whiffed on Jan 25, 2000… while Doug admitted on live TV that he was “suspicious” that models were wrong about it going OTS. I agree . Ryan would always be too low on the big ones but would increase his forecast as the storm was on going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris78 said: I agree . Ryan would always be too low on the big ones but would increase his forecast as the storm was on going. Yeah, he always seemed to be playing from behind. I remember that during the Jan 1996 storm, we had about 20” on the ground and the snow lightened up in intensity. I was worried the storm was almost over, but Bob said “another 6-12 inches coming overnight”. Was doing the math in my head and thinking holy shit, I could get 30 inches! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_warlock Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, WxUSAF said: I posted that a couple days ago. That’s below climo for most of us… I was just thinking that. Below climo and pretty conservative considering the patterns setting up for this winter with elnino. I would think 20-40 inches, instead of 10-20 in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_warlock Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chris78 said: I agree . Ryan would always be too low on the big ones but would increase his forecast as the storm was on going. I agree, i always got the feeling Ryan didnt like snow at all and didnt want to forcast ut unless he absolutely had too and the storm was on top of us 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said: I’m pretty sure Doug Hill was a PG cop that was a weather enthusiast. I’m not sure he had a met degree when he started on TV but am probably wrong. Regardless, I used to love watching him and Glenn Brenner banter. Doug Hill was my dude when I was a kid (even in the Valley we got WUSA9). Now we probably watch the other Doug the most - although still like Topper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I agree, i always got the feeling Ryan didnt like snow at all and didnt want to forcast ut unless he absolutely had too and the storm was on top of usDisagree. Ryan loved snow. But he knew where he lived 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, winter_warlock said: Ryan didnt like snow at all What? Dude created the golden snow shovel ffs. He would literally take his entire segment to salivate about snow. I am sensing a whole bunch of Marylanders up in here who never watched him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_warlock Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, clskinsfan said: What? Dude created the golden snow shovel ffs. He would literally take his entire segment to salivate about snow. I am sensing a whole bunch of Marylanders up in here who never watched him I didnt watch him much . Just saw him sporadically. Maybe i just caught him at less then favorable times for snow. Been many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 What? Dude created the golden snow shovel ffs. He would literally take his entire segment to salivate about snow. I am sensing a whole bunch of Marylanders up in here who never watched himNo weatherman hates snow...especially bob Ryan. He created the weather machine for God's sake! LolSent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_warlock Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Heres an example of modeling underestimating low temps... forcast calls for a low of 39. But temps already down to 36.. i may hit freezing here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 At some point some consistent moisture needs to start showing up in these model runs...this feels pretty dry leading into winter to me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Looks like a zonal flow for awhile with any significant shortwaves tracking to our north. Not the best for rain chances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Looks like a zonal flow for awhile with any significant shortwaves tracking to our north. Not the best for rain chances.Weeklies hinted at pna spike for Thanksgiving before the crapper fest starts again. I did like where we were headed mid December. They also had 5 inches of liquid starting about Nov 20thSent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCT_ATC Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Ji said: No weatherman hates snow...especially bob Ryan. He created the weather machine for God's sake! Lol Sent from my SM-A515U using Tapatalk 100% agreed! here is a clip of Bob Ryan and Topper Shut Interview a while back. Bob even says he's a Snow Lover at 4:34. Its cool to go back and watch old weather weenies talk about the past! (kind of like we do here) https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+ryan+golden+snowshovel&oq=bob+ryan+golden+snowshovel&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgcIAhAhGKsCMgcIAxAhGKsC0gEIOTg3NGoxajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:7e4d1b34,vid:7I60LilzFbQ,st:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, aldie 22 said: At some point some consistent moisture needs to start showing up in these model runs...this feels pretty dry leading into winter to me Yep I've been saying it for months... this Nino isn't acting like a Nino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PrinceFrederickWx said: Yep I've been saying it for months... this Nino isn't acting like a Nino. Agreed...the southern stream has been practically non-existent for most of the year with most of the storms riding the high latitudes. That seems very Nina'ish, though maybe the gom will open up as the jet streams sinks farther south. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Wasn't 2003 - 2004 a cold, but dry El Nino winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Eric Webb says the Cansips just canceled winter in the east 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, 87storms said: Agreed...the southern stream has been practically non-existent for most of the year with most of the storms riding the high latitudes. That seems very Nina'ish, though maybe the gom will open up as the jet streams sinks farther south. I remember in Oct. 2009 we had the back-to-back mid-October coastals, both with big rain totals and four consecutive record lowest maxes at BWI. This pattern literally reloaded in February. If I saw something like that happen this month, I might get excited for the 09-10 analogs being thrown about lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, aldie 22 said: Eric Webb says the Cansips just canceled winter in the east I think he lives in New Mexico and loves hearing east coast snow weenies gnash their teeth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Eskimo Joe said: I think he lives in New Mexico and loves hearing east coast snow weenies gnash their teeth. He's more annoying than that Leesburg 04 dude was 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollenwiese Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Doug Hill was my dude when I was a kid (even in the Valley we got WUSA9). Now we probably watch the other Doug the most - although still like Topper. Yeah as kid, (and I have no idea if this was even true or not now that I'm in my forties), but it seemed like he always had a more serious demeanor which for some reason just jived with how seriously I took the weather But I also miss the days of minimalist local on the 8's weather forecasts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, aldie 22 said: He's more annoying than that Leesburg 04 dude was With the icon you use, how did I not figure this out sooner?!? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 WB Can. for February this month compared to last month. More ridging in Western Can. Less trough in East. Does it mean anything? Tell you in March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itryatgolf70 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, rollenwiese said: Yeah as kid, (and I have no idea if this was even true or not now that I'm in my forties), but it seemed like he always had a more serious demeanor which for some reason just jived with how seriously I took the weather But I also miss the days of minimalist local on the 8's weather forecasts... The owners or whoever makes decisions for the weather channel screwed it up by having these weird shows at night instead of actual live weather! It makes ZERO sense on what they do now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Weather Will said: WB Can. for February this month compared to last month. More ridging in Western Can. Less trough in East. Does it mean anything? Tell you in March. Looks like in the latest edition everything just seems more smoothed out with lesser anomalies in both directions. The same general idea is still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris78 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Weather Will said: WB Can. for February this month compared to last month. More ridging in Western Can. Less trough in East. Does it mean anything? Tell you in March. What does December and January look like compared to October 1st update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Eskimo Joe said: Wasn't 2003 - 2004 a cold, but dry El Nino winter? 03-04 was technically neutral, it was 0.3-0.4 more or less on the average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, Chris78 said: Looks like in the latest edition everything just seems more smoothed out with lesser anomalies in both directions. The same general idea is still there. Still a considerable step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 the CanSIPS has a great pattern for the back half of winter, which can be really exciting historically in El Niños. that’s about all that has to be said 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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