November 2023

[Allsnow]

3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

the record low is 19 lol

What does that have to do with the quoted post? 

[weathermedic]

Made it down to 32 at my station. First official freeze of the season.

[SACRUS]

 

Down to 24 here now up to 35.  Back and forth warmer Sun/Mon then cold Tue (11/28 - 11/30).  Warmer to open Dec but could turn a bit wetter.

 

 

[IrishRob17]

36 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

the record low at port jervis is 11

Yeah, low of 21 here, not exactly a November of yore despite the yarn being spun by some but the month has been below the all time highest averages we've seen so we have that going for us...

[EastonSN+]

57 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

the record low is 19 lol

We will see it again down the road. May take a few years though.

[Allsnow]

January like temps for today and early to mid week..

 

@Brian5671 can finally stop posting the models keep pushing the cold back 

[wdrag]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

the record low at port jervis is 11

Wow...  reaching out toward nw NJ... pretty good.  We exist out here in OC and SC.... lots of commuters and Met fans. 

[SACRUS]

Records:

 

Highs:

 

EWR: 73 (1979)  
NYC: 73 (1979)
LGA: 68 (1979)


Lows:

EWR: 19 (1938)
NYC: 19 (1938)
LGA:  23 (2005)

 

Historical: 

1798 - A four day storm was in progress in the northeastern U.S. The storm dropped a foot of snow on New York City and New Haven, and as much as three feet in Maine and New Hampshire. The snowstorm ushered in a long and severe winter, in some places the ground remained covered with snow until the following May. (David Ludlum)
 

1950: Called the "storm of the century" this storm impacted the eastern part of the US, killing hundreds and causing millions of dollars in damages. New York City recorded a 94 mph wind gust and Bear Mountain, just north of the city recorded a 140 mph gust. Record low temperatures were reported on the southern end of this storm in Tennessee and North Carolina. This storm was unique as Pittsburgh saw 30 inches of snow, while Buffalo saw 50 degrees with 50 mph wind gusts. 

1967 - Excessive rains in southern California caused the most severe flooding and the most damaging mmud slidesin 33 years. Downtown Los Angeles received eight inches of rain, and 14 inches fell in the mountains. (David Ludlum)

1985 - Hurricane Kate made landfall during the evening hours near Mexico Beach, FL. Wind gusts to 100 mph were reported at Cape San Blas FL. It was the latest known hurricane to hit the U.S. so far north. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Squalls in the Lower Great Lakes Region and the Upper Ohio Valley produced 14 inches of snow at Snowshoe WV, and nearly eight inches at Syracuse NY. Eleven cities in the eastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date. Record lows included 21 degrees at Pinson AL, 9 degrees at Syracuse NY, and 8 degrees at Binghamton NY. Gale force winds lash the Middle and Northern Atlantic Coast, and the strong northwesterly winds produced wind chill readings as cold as 30 degrees below zero. Winds gusting to 60 mph at Trumansburg NY toppled a chimney onto a nearby truck. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - High winds accompanied rain and snow in the northeastern U.S. Caribou ME received eight inches of snow in six hours, and Fort Kent ME was blanketed with a total of fourteen inches of snow. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - The storm which produced thunderstorms and high winds in the northeastern U.S. the previous day, produced snow and high winds in New England, with blizzard conditions reported in Maine. Winds gusted to 55 mph at Boston MA, and reached 58 mph at Augusta ME, and hurricane force winds were reported off the coast of Maine. Snowfall totals ranged up to 18 inches at Vanceboro ME, with 17 inches at South Lincoln VT. There were thirty-five sstormrelated injuries in Maine. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

 

[SACRUS]

https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/great-appalachian-storm-of-1950/

 

[qg_omega]

2 hours ago, Allsnow said:

Nyc 30 

Nice call

[North and West]

I know it’s Philly, but imagine if these boards were around in the early 1990s. 🫠


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[the_other_guy]

1 hour ago, IrishRob17 said:

Yeah, low of 21 here, not exactly a November of yore despite the yarn being spun by some but the month has been below the all time highest averages we've seen so we have that going for us...

No, we should all be as miserable as the few that wait for record warmth in one of our seldom BN months.

Oh look… some model with a questionable track record has warmth Mid December! Its over, told you. Lights out, death to winter. :/ We are the new Norfolk…yea!

[Stormlover74]

33 minutes ago, North and West said:

I know it’s Philly, but imagine if these boards were around in the early 1990s. 


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I'd gladly take 90-91 again. At least we had 2 decent storms even if they were washed away by rain a day or two later

[North and West]

No, we should all be as miserable as the few that wait for record warmth in one of our seldom BN months.
Oh look… some model with a questionable track record has warmth Mid December! Its over, told you. Lights out, death to winter. :/ We are the new Norfolk…yea!

A lot of posters are very smart - much smarter than many of us here, including myself, when it comes to weather - but why always so negative?

I see that with my friends who are meteorologists and have postings/followings on Twitter… some other meteorologists seem to revel in why the other person is wrong or analyzing incorrectly.

Maybe it’s human nature?


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[winterwx21]

1 hour ago, Allsnow said:

January like temps for today and early to mid week..

 

@Brian5671 can finally stop posting the models keep pushing the cold back 

Yep we might not make it out of the upper 30s on Tuesday. 

[Stormchaserchuck1]

19 hours ago, bluewave said:

Another endless summer pattern in September or October transitioning to a little below average in November: 
 

I think we may have a -PNA this February. The 6-year running mean is +150dm over the PNA region. 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, North and West said:

I know it’s Philly, but imagine if these boards were around in the early 1990s. 


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2014 to 2018 is going to be tough to beat for 5 year maximum snowfall since it was probably at least a 100 year event.

 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	269.9	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	256.2	2013-01-01 through 2017-12-31	0
3	227.0	2015-01-01 through 2019-12-31	0
4	223.3	2012-01-01 through 2016-12-31	0
5	219.4	2011-01-01 through 2015-12-31	0

 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	209.4	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	205.2	1914-01-01 through 1918-12-31	2
3	204.9	1892-01-01 through 1896-12-31	3
4	204.3	1893-01-01 through 1897-12-31	3
5	202.1	1944-01-01 through 1948-12-31	0

 

[Allsnow]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

2014 to 2018 is going to be tough to beat for 5 year maximum snowfall since it was probably at least a 100 year event.

 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	269.9	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	256.2	2013-01-01 through 2017-12-31	0
3	227.0	2015-01-01 through 2019-12-31	0
4	223.3	2012-01-01 through 2016-12-31	0
5	219.4	2011-01-01 through 2015-12-31	0

 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	209.4	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	205.2	1914-01-01 through 1918-12-31	2
3	204.9	1892-01-01 through 1896-12-31	3
4	204.3	1893-01-01 through 1897-12-31	3
5	202.1	1944-01-01 through 1948-12-31	0

 

We were spoiled…

[Dark Star]

56 minutes ago, North and West said:

A lot of posters are very smart - much smarter than many of us here, including myself, when it comes to weather - but why always so negative?

I see that with my friends who are meteorologists and have postings/followings on Twitter… some other meteorologists seem to revel in why the other person is wrong or analyzing incorrectly.

Maybe it’s human nature?


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What I find amazing is the interpretation of a right or wrong forecast.  IT's okay to be wrong, but it hurts like heck.  i do believe most weather events are predictable.  It's a matter of using the right tools at the right time (not this cowboy).  I used to love Jeff Beradelli's post analysis of a storm, especially ones that "underperformed" based on the general guidance.  He would always point out indicators as to why things didn't work out on a particular storm.  It was a very good learning tool (I know, I'm off on a tangent)...

 

[North and West]

2014 to 2018 is going to be tough to beat for 5 year maximum snowfall since it was probably at least a 100 year event.
 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	269.9	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	256.2	2013-01-01 through 2017-12-31	0
3	227.0	2015-01-01 through 2019-12-31	0
4	223.3	2012-01-01 through 2016-12-31	0
5	219.4	2011-01-01 through 2015-12-31	0

 

Maximum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Value	Dates	Missing Days
1	209.4	2014-01-01 through 2018-12-31	0
2	205.2	1914-01-01 through 1918-12-31	2
3	204.9	1892-01-01 through 1896-12-31	3
4	204.3	1893-01-01 through 1897-12-31	3
5	202.1	1944-01-01 through 1948-12-31	0

 

Great information, thank you!

Really emphasizes the boom/bust nature of snowfall around here, which AGW seems to be amplifying.


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[bluewave]

6 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

We were spoiled…

Yeah, it just makes the last 5 years seem even lower then they were. So we went from the highest 5 year snowfall total to the 7th lowest. These all of nothing snowfall patterns have become the new normal after the record 95-96 season was followed by 8 lowest 5 year snowfall total. 

Minimum 5-Year Total Snowfall 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Rank	Value	Ending Date	Missing Days
Period of record: 1871-01-01 to 2023-11-24
1	66.1	1932-12-31	0
2	66.2	1931-12-31	0
3	71.9	1955-12-31	0
4	72.2	1954-12-31	0
5	74.8	1992-12-31	0
6	77.0	1953-12-31	0
7	77.7	2023-12-31	37
8	79.4	2001-12-31	1
9	81.8	1977-12-31	0
-	77.7	1975-12-31	0

[the_other_guy]

Good article on CNN about NOAA snowfall charts for last 50 years.

One of the graphics tells the story

[psv88]

1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

No, we should all be as miserable as the few that wait for record warmth in one of our seldom BN months.

Oh look… some model with a questionable track record has warmth Mid December! Its over, told you. Lights out, death to winter. :/ We are the new Norfolk…yea!

You ok pal?

[Allsnow]

Euro still showing snow shower potential Tuesday afternoon. Perhaps some ocean effect for LI 

[North and West]

Euro still showing snow shower potential Tuesday afternoon. Perhaps some ocean effect for LI 

me in Morris County



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[Allsnow]

1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

Yep we might not make it out of the upper 30s on Tuesday. 

 

[Allsnow]

 

[psv88]

Yea. Wednesday morning looks very cold. Kill the remaining insects

[bluewave]

37 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

 

The surface temperature departures this month have been less impressive than the departures at 850 mb over the Northeast. So while this will probably be our coldest temperatures  of the fall so far, probably nothing too out of the ordinary for this time of year.

[Allsnow]

8 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The surface temperature departures this month have been less impressive than the departures at 850 mb over the Northeast. So while these will probably be our coldest weather of the fall so far, probably nothing too out of the ordinary for this time of year.

Surface temps not getting out of the 30’s a pretty impressive to end November