bluewave Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, MJO812 said: All the models look much better by the end of the month With the very fast Pacific split flow, the models haven’t been very reliable beyond 8-10 days. So we probably can’t forecast much beyond Thanksgiving at this point. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Dropped below freezing last night around mid evening and stayed in the upper 20s all night. Just dropped to 27 my low for the day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 22 here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Nyc and lga only locations in the area that haven’t hit freezing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 NYC and LGA along with the immediate shoreline like Long Beach and Breezy Point will probably have to wait until after Thanksgiving for the first freeze. Lows Jones Beach…37 Breezy point…37 Montauk…37 EWR…32 NYC…35 LGA….37 JFK…31 FRG…30 ISP….27 HPN…28 HVN…27 TEB….28 BDR….30 East Hampton…20 MJG….19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Overnight low of 26 here. Current temp 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 21 for the low here, KMGJ, which is a good radiation spot, got down to 19. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: NYC and LGA along with the immediate shoreline like Long Beach and Breezy Point will probably have to wait until after Thanksgiving for the first freeze. Lows Jones Beach…37 Breezy point…37 Montauk…37 EWR…32 NYC…35 LGA….37 JFK…31 FRG…30 ISP….27 HPN…28 HVN…27 TEB….28 BDR….30 East Hampton…20 MJG….19 Low of 38 at my remote station at Cherry Grove on Fire Island. The atmosphere never did decouple there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tatamy said: Low of 38 at my remote station at Cherry Grove on Fire Island. The atmosphere never did decouple there. My first freeze date in Long Beach was usually around the same time as NYC. It’s remarkable how shallow these radiational cooling inversions are. The 85m temperature at BNL near the NWS office was the same as the surface in NYC and at the shore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, bluewave said: My first freeze date in Long Beach was usually around the same time as NYC. It’s remarkable how shallow these radiational cooling inversions are. The 85m temperature at BNL near the NWS office was the same as the surface in NYC and at the shore. Crazy. NWS at Upton got down to 19 what difference from the city. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, bluewave said: With the very fast Pacific split flow, the models haven’t been very reliable beyond 8-10 days. So we probably can’t forecast much beyond Thanksgiving at this point. EPS has some cool air spilling east around Thanksgiving but for the most part it's cold west, mild east like the past 8+ years. The Nina background state looks permanent 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker2015 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Dropped to 21.3 overnight...nice and frosty out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, bluewave said: With the very fast Pacific split flow, the models haven’t been very reliable beyond 8-10 days. So we probably can’t forecast much beyond Thanksgiving at this point. Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: EPS has some cool air spilling east around Thanksgiving but for the most part it's cold west, mild east like the past 8+ years. The Nina background state looks permanent Fortune teller ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Fortune teller ? Been the pattern for years now. Go west if you want winter for thanksgiving this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 The next 8 days are averaging 47degs. (41/53) or Normal. Reached 48 at 4pm. yesterday. Today: 49-53, wind w., scattered clouds, 42 tomorrow AM. 37*(52%RH) at 6am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselbug Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Low of 27 in Cherry Hill this morning along with a thick frost. Question...my wife's van in the driveway had frost covering the entire windshield, but my car, which is parked in the street had no frost at all! The only difference is that my car on the street is parked underneath a large oak tree that still has most of its leaves on it. This is now the third or forth time that this has occurred this fall. Besides the tree, I'm not sure why there's been no frost on the car...not complaining though! I just don't know why lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 21 this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 23.5, impressively chilly this morning. Was colder than Iceland’s lows! This trip ranged between 25-38 or so most days. Started in the northern part of West Iceland, more inland and ended up in the far southeast coast near Vatnajökull glacier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Leaves dropping this AM with the 2 nights of subfreezing weather. We're still about 50% on trees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Been the pattern for years now. Go west if you want winter for thanksgiving this year Who wants snow in November ? Alot of Debbie downers again this winter when it's not even winter yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 hours ago, MJO812 said: Based off something in November? Good luck Lol no. As my post said, based on the multi-year garbage Niña pattern we seem unable to escape. Full disclaimer: I’d be thrilled if I were wrong. But if I were a betting man, I’d be betting on continuity which, right now, doesn’t paint a pretty picture for us cold and snow lovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Leaves dropping this AM with the 2 nights of subfreezing weather. We're still about 50% on trees... We haven’t had much wind, certainly not a high wind event. Nothing on the horizon either. So leaves are coming down very gradually this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, dieselbug said: Low of 27 in Cherry Hill this morning along with a thick frost. Question...my wife's van in the driveway had frost covering the entire windshield, but my car, which is parked in the street had no frost at all! The only difference is that my car on the street is parked underneath a large oak tree that still has most of its leaves on it. This is now the third or forth time that this has occurred this fall. Besides the tree, I'm not sure why there's been no frost on the car...not complaining though! I just don't know why lol. The oak tree above the car is affecting the radiation from the car. It's kind of a blanket if you will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: We haven’t had much wind, certainly not a high wind event. Nothing on the horizon either. So leaves are coming down very gradually this fall. yeah no high wind events or big noreasters last few weeks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Eduardo said: Lol no. As my post said, based on the multi-year garbage Niña pattern we seem unable to escape. Full disclaimer: I’d be thrilled if I were wrong. But if I were a betting man, I’d be betting on continuity which, right now, doesn’t paint a pretty picture for us cold and snow lovers. Probably somewhat of a hang over of the 3 yr Nina...hopefully we see a change as we head deeper into winter...even a 15-16 type winter (3 weeks of winter) would work after last year's ratter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: Probably somewhat of a hang over of the 3 yr Nina...hopefully we see a change as we head deeper into winter...even a 15-16 type winter (3 weeks of winter) would work after last year's ratter. Vortex record strong going into December is not great for a snowy start. My bet would be that any changes we would see will be when that starts to weaken towards the starts of January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselbug Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: The oak tree above the car is affecting the radiation from the car. It's kind of a blanket if you will Thanks. It’s great to know that the tree canopy inhibits frost formation and therefore no scraping early in the morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 25 in NW Suffolk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBabylonWeather Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Bottomed out at 27 in west babylon. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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