bwt3650 Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 We had 11”, not 20”. Wait there’s no way Jay reported 18” is there? They had 6-8” like early afternoon yesterday. I’m sorry there just wasn’t much if any elevational difference in this storm. Synoptic and mid-level lift. Zero reason for wide ranges in ski areas reported snowfall. The bases got about the same as the summits.Jay says 6-8 in the last 24 hours. 48 in the last week. They were saying 38 before this storm, so I’m assuming 10 total for the storm. It snowed Thursday night too, so maybe that’s in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: We had 11”, not 20”. Wait there’s no way Jay reported 18” is there? They had 6-8” like early afternoon yesterday. I’m sorry there just wasn’t much if any elevational difference in this storm. Synoptic and mid-level lift. Zero reason for wide ranges in ski areas reported snowfall. The bases got about the same as the summits. Thanks, I updated it. I figured that 20" number was off, it was the 72-hour total and seemed to be the closest option available. The 24-hour total wasn’t appropriate because there had clearly been some snowfall before opening yesterday, and for some reason there was no mention of the actual storm total or a 48-hour total when I checked the report (most resorts were at least giving one of those). I see there is a 48-hour total listed on the Stowe website now though, and even though there’s no actual mention of the storm total, 48 hour totals this morning are a decent fit for storm totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Bretton Woods Area picked up 18-24 inches, nice and light and easy to clean up. Same with Bartlett and North Conway. Wildcst reports 30inches at the base and more as you go up in elevation. Sunshine and blue skies all day today. Parking lots were packed at Bretton Woods, Attitash, and Cranmore. Ski it while you can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, bwt3650 said: Jay says 6-8 in the last 24 hours. 48 in the last week. They were saying 38 before this storm, so I’m assuming 10 total for the storm. It snowed Thursday night too, so maybe that’s in there. They had 6-8” at midday yesterday supposedly and then another 6-8” for a total of 12-18”… though that math doesn’t check out. This is why I hate ranges too, because there was very little change in snowfall, if any, with elevation. If you always employ the formula of “base area + 2” for every update, it starts compounding real fast. Theres a joke in ski areas about the rule of + 2 (plus two) that most places just take what they measure and add two for an upper range (for whatever reason, it’s hard to say). So my guess is Jay had 10 to 12. The March Madness continues today with another 6-8" since we last recorded at noon yesterday. Since this storm began Friday night, we're totaling 12-18" of fresh powder and it's all out there to enjoy in the sunshine today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Woke up to 12” in the drivewaySaddleback says 20” in 24 hours. I believe.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 17 minutes ago, borderwx said: Woke up to 12” in the driveway Saddleback says 20” in 24 hours. I believe. . Bucket list mountain, and after a storm like that, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwt3650 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 They had 6-8” at midday yesterday supposedly and then another 6-8” for a total of 12-18”… though that math doesn’t check out. This is why I hate ranges too, because there was very little change in snowfall, if any, with elevation. If you always employ the formula of “base area + 2” for every update, it starts compounding real fast. Theres a joke in ski areas about the rule of + 2 (plus two) that most places just take what they measure and add two for an upper range (for whatever reason, it’s hard to say). So my guess is Jay had 10 to 12. The March Madness continues today with another 6-8" since we last recorded at noon yesterday. Since this storm began Friday night, we're totaling 12-18" of fresh powder and it's all out there to enjoy in the sunshine today.Na, you’re right. I didn’t read the report; just went by the numbers at the bottom, which don’t add up to the report either. I’m in nj this weekend, so didn’t measure anything…48 in the last week probably isn’t too far off though. 30 minute lines just to get into the resort today, which jay never has…and to be basically saying “parking full, don’t come here” is crazy.Debating Stratton, Kmart or sugarbush tnrw.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, bwt3650 said: Na, you’re right. I didn’t read the report; just went by the numbers at the bottom, which don’t add up to the report either. I’m in nj this weekend, so didn’t measure anything…48 in the last week probably isn’t too far off though. 30 minute lines just to get into the resort today, which jay never has…and to be basically saying “parking full, don’t come here” is crazy. Debating Stratton, Kmart or sugarbush tnrw. . This had to be the busiest ski day in New England in a long time. Busiest ski weekend. The holiday weekends had nothing on this region wide. We ran out of parking both days, even with the paid parking economic control. Saw Bolton, Jay, Smuggs, MRG, Killington, etc all say they were at capacity and videos of traffic and parking going viral on social. What a day for New England skiing and riding. The overall visitation numbers have to be near record levels. Even Sugarloaf, way the hell up there, was seeing traffic jams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: This had to be the busiest ski day in New England in a long time. Busiest ski weekend. The holiday weekends had nothing on this region wide. We ran out of parking both days, even with the paid parking economic control. Saw Bolton, Jay, Smuggs, MRG, Killington, etc all say they were at capacity and videos of traffic and parking going viral on social. Even Sugarloaf, way the hell up there, was seeing traffic jams. What a day for New England skiing and riding. The overall visitation numbers have to be near record levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Can confirm. I was at mt Ellen. Never seen it so packed. definitely top ten all time day. Bluebird on fresh winter snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Finished ski day #9 out of the last 10 days at Cannon yesterday Blindingly beautiful afternoon. Bumps were growing bumps. The character of our ski hills in NNE is special. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 It’s been a few days of great skiing, so I’m only now catching up with reports from our recent sessions up on the mountain. On Saturday, Winter Storm Ronnie had begun delivering snow in the wee hours of the morning, and once things got going, heavy snowfall pounded the mountains all day. In our area, the flakes were relatively small, and my early morning liquid analyses from the snow revealed that it was a fairly synoptic-like 12.0 to 1 ratio. That ratio actually dropped as the storm continued through the day, with a 10.6 to 1 ratio for my afternoon analysis, and an 8.4 to 1 ratio for my evening analysis. Despite the relatively small flakes, the snowfall was still in the inch per hour range or more, so there was a lot of liquid coming out of the sky. The very heavy snowfall and small flakes made for some very tough photography out on the mountain, but we still fired away to get what we could. Although the storm was still in progress and we’d only received a portion of the anticipated accumulation by the time the lifts started running at Bolton, we still kicked things off with an early start. We were worried about the ascent of the Bolton Valley Access Road, but an uphill plow run had been done fairly recently, so it was actually quick and painless getting up to the Timberline Base. We quickly met up with one of my colleagues from work and his son, and my younger son and one of his friends from college as well, so we had a party of six exploring the mountain. There didn’t appear to be much elevation dependence with the snowfall, so we were happy to hang down at the relatively lower elevations of Timberline and make use of the great terrain there. While there hadn’t been a call for much wind with this storm, it was still blowing quite hard, and that was another incentive to stay down at the Timberline elevations for a while. We eventually did move up to the main mountain, skiing both Wilderness and Vista, and even by the summits up above 3,000’ the wind was similar to what we’d experienced down at Timberline. As the morning moved on, the wind decreased substantially to the point where it wasn’t even a factor. In terms of the ski conditions, the moderately dense snow had already put down an excellent resurfacing even for the first runs in the morning. The new snow was atop recent rounds of snow from previous storms, so that presumably helped, and with snowfall continuing all day at around an inch per hour, the trails were constantly getting refreshed. The resurfacing made the quality of the on piste turns really good aside from scoured over very high traffic areas, but the powder skiing off piste left something to be desired. With the dense snow falling, the powder was somewhat upside down, and its density allowed you to easily get bogged down on anything but steep terrain. That’s not to say that the powder skiing wasn’t still tons of fun, but you could tell it wasn’t up to the typical standards of a storm cycle in the Northern Greens where the snow gradually lightens into upslope fluff and really sets up some top notch powder. All in all though, it was an excellent session of storm day skiing at the resort. We stopped in for lunch with my son and his friend at Fireside Flatbread and had some excellent pizza – I got to try their barbeque chicken bacon ranch pizza that my son has been raving about. There weren’t any substantial lift queues to speak of, and it was likely that the ongoing storm kept some people from venturing out to the mountains. The drive down the access road was fairly tough when we finally left in the afternoon, so I can understand why that would keep some folks home, perhaps hoping to come out on Sunday when the storm had wound down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 A few more snowy Saturday shots from Bolton: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 It’s been a busy week, so I haven’t been able to get out any pictures from last Sunday at Bolton Valley, but I didn’t ski this weekend so I had some time to catch up. Last weekend was an interesting dichotomy of days with Winter Storm Ronnie coming through – Saturday was an absolute blitz of a storm day as the pictures above indicate, but the storm had departed by Sunday and it was just one of those clear, calm, quiet, midwinter days with perfect temperatures that were just a bit below freezing. I used the term “quiet” to describe the weather, but that in no way described the number of visitors to the mountain. We arrived right around the opening time for Timberline, and the cars were already pouring into the resort. I’m not sure about the lore behind nobody skiing after President’s week, but the number of people out on Sunday clearly revealed that such an idea is a crock. People continued to come to the resort all morning, and by the time we left in the late morning period, Bolton had an employee stationed at the bottom of the Bolton Valley Access Road and cars were backed up onto Route 2. I’ve seen them station someone at the bottom of the road when it’s really bad or the resort is not running the lifts due to power/storm issues, but that wasn’t the case this time – there were just so many people coming to the resort that the parking was bursting at the seams. To punctuate just how many people were skiing around here, my friend Dave even came up from Boston to crash overnight Saturday at our place because he was skiing Sugarbush on Sunday. Apparently, everyone wanted to ski after Winter Storm Ronnie. In any event, the skiing was great, but the only thing that really stood out as exceptional was the weather. The snow had dried out and potentially consolidated in its lower levels somewhat overnight, and a bit of lighter snow had fallen as the storm departed, so the powder was not nearly as upside down as it had been on Saturday. The resurfacing had mostly been completed by the end of the day on Saturday, but by Sunday Bolton was reporting a storm total of 16 inches, and based on my analyses the were 1 to 2 inches of liquid equivalent in there. I’ve definitely been hearing talk of it being the best day of the season, but that was mostly hyperbole with respect to conditions around here in the Northern Greens. If you just went by the snow quality and powder skiing, it probably sneaks into the top 10 in terms of great days because of the weather factor, but it really doesn’t come anywhere near the top five. Even this season, which seems to be running a bit below average in terms of snowfall, there have just been too many storm cycles that finished off with quality champagne over a substantial based and a good front end of dense snow that knock last Sunday down several spots in terms of the powder skiing. It was still and excellent day to be out on the slopes though; it’s not every storm that we get that sort of weather right as the system departs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 We were recently put under a Winter Storm Watch for a potential storm coming into the area in the midweek timeframe. There isn’t a headline snowfall map posted yet, but there is a preliminary map that includes some of the anticipated snowfall on the BTV NWS Winter Weather site. The current map only goes out to 8:00 A.M. Thursday, and the modeling suggests the storm won’t wind down until the weekend, so I’m sure the maps will be updated as we get closer to the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 @J.Spin BTV posted a new map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Biggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Biggie There’s lots of great discussion about the upcoming system in the BTV NWS AFD. The section below is pretty neat – it’s like they hired PF to write it: Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Burlington VT 1007 AM EDT Tue Apr 2 2024 As of 1006 AM EDT Tuesday...All things considered, a better proxy for this upcoming late season winter storm is the positive snow depth change. While far from perfect, it should provide better context on what would most likely occur compared to low probability worst case scenarios depicted by straight 10:1 or kuchera snowfall outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Here are the updated BTV NWS maps from overnight for the upcoming storm system. There’s definitely been an expansion of the area of Winter Storm Watches and the area of 12-18” shading along the spine of the Greens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Some of the Winter Storm Watches put out by the BTV NWS have been converted to Winter Storm Warnings as confidence in the next storm system grows. Coverage of the 12-18” shading along the Greens on the Storm Total Snowfall Forecast Map has also expanded out farther into the lower valleys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Latest from BTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Cleared 6”, 27F. Snowin like a bastard.There are some super pissed Robins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4.5" overnight, 6.5" total. Still lightly snowing small flakes/grains. 29.4° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9” here. 110” on the season now. Pretty damn good for all the warmth lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 22 minutes ago, timp said: 9” here. 110” on the season now. Pretty damn good for all the warmth lol. Nice. The 6.5" I've gotten so far puts me at 98.75". Maybe I can eek out a little more to get to the century mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, mreaves said: Nice. The 6.5" I've gotten so far puts me at 98.75". Maybe I can eek out a little more to get to the century mark. I think you’ll get it. Radar looks choppier but plenty of heavier snow rotating our way. HRRR has it snowing all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmcginvt Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 love the new top of mansfield cam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, dmcginvt said: love the new top of mansfield cam Whoa didn't know about that one! Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Morning CoCoRAHS snowfall amounts. Pretty even spread but definitely heavier to the east of the Spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 VERMONT ...Addison County... 2 NE Monkton 9.0 845 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 4 ENE Starksboro 7.0 930 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NE South Lincoln 5.0 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 SE New Haven 3.8 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Bristol 3.4 645 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 1 WNW Orwell 3.3 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS N Middlebury 1.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Vergennes 0.1 513 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer ...Bennington County... 1 NNE Landgrove 8.5 715 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 ENE Manchester 6.9 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS W South Shaftsbury 1.0 755 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Caledonia County... Stannard 11.7 1059 AM 4/04 Broadcast Media 2 S Wheelock 9.2 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Sutton 8.9 701 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer N Danville 7.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 W Lyndonville 6.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 WNW Wells River 6.5 703 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 4 W Barnet 6.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 N Lyndonville 6.4 909 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS West Burke 6.0 721 AM 4/04 Public 3 NNE Danville 5.6 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 4 WSW Groton 4.4 100 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS N St. Johnsbury 3.7 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Chittenden County... Underhill 10.8 804 AM 4/04 Public 2 NW Westford 9.6 834 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 4 NNE Underhill 7.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 SW Milton 7.1 1009 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 1 ENE Essex Junction 7.1 842 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 2 E St. George 7.0 1009 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 5 NNE Underhill 6.4 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS WSW Williston 6.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Richmond 6.0 804 AM 4/04 Public 3 SSW South Burlingt 5.8 850 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 S Essex Center 5.8 719 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 1 E Huntington 5.6 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 N Hinesburg 5.2 823 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Hinesburg 5.2 842 AM 4/04 Public 1 N Colchester 5.0 737 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 1 NNW Burlington 4.9 949 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 4 NW Burlington 4.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS N Winooski 4.0 748 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NE South Burlingto 3.9 750 AM 4/04 NWS Office 3 SSW Williston 3.9 600 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 SW Hinesburg 3.6 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 ENE Shelburne 3.1 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Essex County... Maidstone 7.5 826 AM 4/04 Public Island Pond 6.0 750 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 NNW Lunenburg 4.0 500 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Franklin County... St. Albans 4.1 751 AM 4/04 Public East Enosburg 4.0 1045 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 4 ESE Montgomery 4.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 N Enosburg Falls 3.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 SW Swanton 1.6 757 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NNE Swanton 1.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Enosburg Falls 1.0 445 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer ...Lamoille County... 2 SSW Eden 12.0 838 AM 4/04 Trained Spotter Belvidere Center 11.0 1043 AM 4/04 Public 2 WSW Wolcott 8.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 N Smugglers Notch 8.4 730 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer SW Stowe 8.0 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Morrisville 8.0 825 AM 4/04 Public 1 SSW Jeffersonville 7.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 N Johnson 7.0 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer Johnson 6.0 719 AM 4/04 Public ...Orange County... Williamstown 9.5 957 AM 4/04 Public 3 SW Braintree 8.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ESE Chelsea 5.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 E Corinth Corners 5.1 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 SE Strafford 4.8 630 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 ENE West Fairlee 4.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 NNW Bradford 3.8 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Union Village NEPP 3.3 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer ...Orleans County... 4 NNE Greensboro 15.2 950 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NE East Craftsbury 12.5 820 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 7 SE Morgan 11.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Newport Center 10.0 953 AM 4/04 Public 2 NNW Greensboro 9.9 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Craftsbury Common 8.1 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 WNW Westfield 8.0 715 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 W Derby Line 5.9 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Rutland County... 1 W Shrewsbury 5.0 600 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 SSW Wallingford 4.1 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 N West Rutland 3.1 615 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 N Rutland 2.7 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 SSE West Rutland 2.3 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 SSE Pittsford 2.0 540 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Washington County... Northfield 11.8 1043 AM 4/04 Public 3 E Warren 11.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NNW Woodbury 10.0 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 NNW Woodbury 9.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 4 ENE Cabot 9.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 SW East Barre 9.0 908 AM 4/04 NWS Employee 4 ESE Marshfield 9.0 1051 AM 4/04 Trained Spotter 3 N Waterbury 8.5 945 AM 4/04 Public 2 N Waitsfield 8.1 830 AM 4/04 Public 4 NE Waterbury 7.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 SW East Calais 7.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 ESE Plainfield 6.5 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 W Worcester 6.5 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 N Northfield 6.3 750 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 NW Waterbury 5.8 600 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Windham County... 6 W West Brattleboro 8.8 800 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 2 NNE Marlboro 8.8 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 2 N East Dover 8.0 720 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NNE Rockingham 4.9 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 NE East Dummerston 3.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 S Brattleboro 2.1 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS ...Windsor County... 2 NE Rochester 13.5 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 3 S Ludlow 9.5 800 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS Rochester 7.0 720 AM 4/04 Public NE Rochester 6.0 700 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS NNE Proctorsville 6.0 730 AM 4/04 CoCoRaHS 1 E Woodstock 5.1 800 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer 4 W Norwich 5.0 644 AM 4/04 Public 1 NNE North Hartland 4.0 700 AM 4/04 Co-Op Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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