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October 2023 General Discussion


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Ended up with about 2" on the ground this evening. Ground is white and trees are covered.  Looks like winter.  Not bad considering the forecast from this morning was only 30% of snow today. Understandable too considering models mainly kept it south and west of here.  :D:snowwindow:

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Had light snow falling during most of trick or treating hours, and it was fun passing out candy in a winter coat with flakes floating down. But at the time heavy snow squalls were splitting me from Flint to Toledo. I thought, did I REALLY just go from Fall-mode to "jealous bc a nearby city got more snow" mode in like 2 days, in October? But later in the evening a nice beautiful burst of snow coated the ground in white...winter is coming fast!

Snow totals for Oct 31 were: DTW 0.2", FNT 1.1", MBS 0.5", TOL 0.7", all daily records for Oct 31. The high/low of 41°/27° (mean temp 34°) made it the 5th coldest Halloween on record at Detroit, but coldest since 1923. The real interesting stat tho, since snow records began in 1880, this was only the 7th Halloween to see snow, but 4 of the 7 years have been the last decade (1917, 1955, 1993, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2023)!

With the last flakes of last season May 2nd and the first flakes Oct 31, in 2023 (barring something unprecedented in Nov-Dec), only 4 calendar months (JJAS) will have had no snow.

 

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On 10/31/2023 at 11:40 AM, TheClimateChanger said:

Some of the 2.6" appears to have fallen yesterday, so it won't all be attributed to the 31st (snowfall was shown as missing from yesterday's climate report). Depending on how much fell yesterday, it will still be second or third highest daily total.

Yeah, it got split by the midnight hour. 0.9", and 1.8".

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10 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Had light snow falling during most of trick or treating hours, and it was fun passing out candy in a winter coat with flakes floating down. But at the time heavy snow squalls were splitting me from Flint to Toledo. I thought, did I REALLY just go from Fall-mode to "jealous bc a nearby city got more snow" mode in like 2 days, in October? But later in the evening a nice beautiful burst of snow coated the ground in white...winter is coming fast!

Snow totals for Oct 31 were: DTW 0.2", FNT 1.1", MBS 0.5", TOL 0.7", all daily records for Oct 31. The high/low of 41°/27° (mean temp 34°) made it the 5th coldest Halloween on record at Detroit, but coldest since 1923. The real interesting stat tho, since snow records began in 1880, this was only the 7th Halloween to see snow, but 4 of the 7 years have been the last decade (1917, 1955, 1993, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2023)!

With the last flakes of last season May 2nd and the first flakes Oct 31, in 2023 (barring something unprecedented in Nov-Dec), only 4 calendar months (JJAS) will have had no snow.

 

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It looks like they have snowfall records back to 1874 on xmACIS2. A trace was also observed in 1874 & 1875.

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1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

It looks like they have snowfall records back to 1874 on xmACIS2. A trace was also observed in 1874 & 1875.

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I was going to mention 1874-75 in my original post but didnt. So it's weird. Snowfall records technically date to the beginning of the climate record, which is November 1, 1870. (Happy 153rd birthday of weather records, Detroit :lol:). However, due to some inconsistencies, including some missing data as well as some erroneous snow listed, even though MOST of the 1870-79 record is complete, since there are multiple missing data & errors scattered throughout the 1870s, DTX elects to consider snowfall officially as starting in 1880. It's kind of annoying since so much of the data is there and seems reliable, especially when you compare it to newspapers of the time, but have to stay consistent for records purposes so I quote snow data as starting in 1880.

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