hardypalmguy Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Epic climate warming continues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 5 hours ago, weatherbo said: Fairly common in early season/marginal events to see rain at the shore and snow at inland higher terrain areas until the lake cools sufficiently. Very true. This event was a bit different as this time even Houghton was getting mostly rain due to the lake being so warm. You had to go south toward Twin Lakes area and they got the snows. Houghton is normally enough inland that it snows there yet can be rain at McLain SP in the early season snows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Stebo said: Still low to mid 80s and still the warmest day so far, we just got cloudy, happens. I thought the whole area stayed in low 80s. I just couldnt figure out why they raised highs yesterday lol. They would have been dead on if they stuck with the original forecast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, hardypalmguy said: Epic climate warming continues. Too bad this October and its 4 days of 80+ at MKE (looks unlikely to see anymore) take a back seat to outbreaks 2-3 weeks later in the season from mid-century. 1947 Oct 5- 80 Oct 6- 84 Oct 7- 82 Oct 12- 80 Oct 14- 82 Oct 15- 86 Oct 21- 84 Oct 22- 81 1953 Oct 3- 84 Oct 17- 80 Oct 18- 83 Oct 19- 81 Oct 20- 85 Oct 21- 80 Oct 22- 83 1963 Oct 6- 89 Oct 22- 82 Oct 23- 84 Oct 24- 80 Oct 26- 81 1997 Oct 3- 84 Oct 5- 87 Oct 6- 82 Oct 7- 84 Oct 8- 81 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I sort of wish we had a few days of 70 rather than 85. Actually, 89 yesterday was, as mentioned, only 3 degrees lower than the all-time maximum temperature for the month for Toledo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 wow, it's 11:00PM in October 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Might not get out of the 50s Fri and Sat, with frost next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 7 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Might not get out of the 50s Fri and Sat, with frost next week. The 00z Euro really digs in the southeast Canada/great lakes upper trough this weekend through next week. The entire 10-day period never gets out of the 50s to low 60s around here. Summer is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said: The 00z Euro really digs in the southeast Canada/great lakes upper trough this weekend through next week. The entire 10-day period never gets out of the 50s to low 60s around here. Summer is over. yup cashed out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: yup cashed out Timed the Door County weekend perfectly. Not.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Late tomorrow night-Saturday morning could see some wet flakes mix in up this way. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Well tonight the coconut palm, spindle palm, foxtail palm and flamethrower palm get to be wheeled back into the greenhouse for the winter. Was a good run for tropical palms as I never expect them to be outdoors much longer than September 10-15. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 For me, it's not usual to check the connection with this USA cold front and associated 500mb trough, and the 250mb wind stream. The 500mb chart does not easily show this. The subtropical connection to our sort-of merging jet stream goes all the way from the mid-Pacific near Hawaii up and then up to the Great Lakes. That's why I decided to save the 250mb North America charts of last month, post the loop and perhaps keep up with the whole thing. The El Nino's effects on the atmosphere are going to pop up in force, and the subtropical jet is the major player for North America. That's the thing. I don't know what conclusions I will get from looking at the jet streams way out in the Pacific every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Well tonight the coconut palm, spindle palm, foxtail palm and flamethrower palm get to be wheeled back into the greenhouse for the winter. Was a good run for tropical palms as I never expect them to be outdoors much longer than September 10-15.how big are they all?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 It's going to be entertaining lurking and watching @hardypalmguy troll @michsnowfreak the next 6 months. He's being a good sport about it though. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Powerball said: It's going to be entertaining lurking and watching @hardypalmguy troll @michsnowfreak the next 6 months. He's being a good sport about it though. We all know his troll bit, I just love throwing out stats when applicable 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 As was the case all year, only scraps of the heat made it to SE MI. DTW's warmest temp for this "summers last gasp" was 83F on Oct 3rd. To put that into perspective, while some places west/north set all-time October warm temps or close to it, Detroit has seen a warmer October temp (84F+) a total of 61 times, and then another 26 times matched this 83F. Time to take the heat repellant off the magnet and reattach the snow magnet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: As was the case all year, only scraps of the heat made it to SE MI. DTW's warmest temp for this "summers last gasp" was 83F on Oct 3rd. To put that into perspective, while some places west/north set all-time October warm temps or close to it, Detroit has seen a warmer October temp (84F+) a total of 61 times, and then another 26 times matched this 83F. Time to take the heat repellant off the magnet and reattach the snow magnet Sniffing out a big warmup later in the month. Probably gonna roast for a bit in November too like 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: As was the case all year, only scraps of the heat made it to SE MI. DTW's warmest temp for this "summers last gasp" was 83F on Oct 3rd. To put that into perspective, while some places west/north set all-time October warm temps or close to it, Detroit has seen a warmer October temp (84F+) a total of 61 times, and then another 26 times matched this 83F. Time to take the heat repellant off the magnet and reattach the snow magnet Ahh you mean the magnet that causes the low pressure center to pivot right over us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, hardypalmguy said: Sniffing out a big warmup later in the month. Probably gonna roast for a bit in November too like 2020. Hell first week of last November I was still swatting the occasional mosquito while working outside. Got pretty warm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Looking great late month. No cold air to be found this side of globe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, SolidIcewx said: Hell first week of last November I was still swatting the occasional mosquito while working outside. Got pretty warm Yes, last November had a few nice warm days. MKE set a record high of 77 on 11/10 and a record warm min of 60 same day. It was the latest calendar day in the season EVER that MKE remained above 60 during all reporting hours. Another record. 2020 had 3 record highs in November and 1 record warm minimum (63) which is the warmest record minimum for the month of November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, SolidIcewx said: Hell first week of last November I was still swatting the occasional mosquito while working outside. Got pretty warm There were some warm days the first 10 days of the month followed by a blast of Winter. The fun contrasts of November. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: There were some warm days the first 10 days of the month followed by a blast of Winter. The fun contrasts of November. And then winter crapped the bed for the majority of the season. I had pure green grass mid January. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: And then winter crapped the bed for the majority of the season. I had pure green grass mid January. Because you painted it as I recall lol. We had several good Winter storms here. But definitely not my favorite winter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Last winter was fine and didn't linger into April too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 My low was 18C, that is insanity for Oct 5! Higher than my avg low in the middle of summer. Had a line of storms in the aft with some thunder, the rank trash has arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I wouldn't say last winter was crap at all. Brother-in-law near Tahoe had record snows. Sister in Wyoming had near record snows. Nephew in MN had record snows. Friends in Buffalo with record snows. Family on the west side of MI had two of their largest LES events in several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyweather Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 22/23 was a D- winter for a cold/snow lover west of Chicago. Other than the cold blast (with no real snow) just before Christmas, it had no redeeming qualities. No sustained cold, no snowpack, no big storms. And no mega torches / Morch that would at least add a novelty factor. It’s my nightmare that 23/24 is a redux. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 9 hours ago, hardypalmguy said: Well tonight the coconut palm, spindle palm, foxtail palm and flamethrower palm get to be wheeled back into the greenhouse for the winter. Was a good run for tropical palms as I never expect them to be outdoors much longer than September 10-15. What do those go down to? I have a windmill palm and a few musa basjoo that Im going to leave out during this weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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