gravitylover Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: schools close here for wet roads and slush on the grass....silly Here they close because it's supposed to be wintery at some point in the day. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Snooze fest right now. Temperatures are pleasant with chilly nights but overall the pattern at least for now is boring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, MANDA said: Snooze fest right now. Temperatures are pleasant with chilly nights but overall the pattern at least for now is boring. We could have this ...it was PHLs biggest snowfall of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Great blocking pattern and trough this month but a lack of cold air to go along with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 39 this morning, 1st 30s this season. Lots of fog around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, bluewave said: Great blocking pattern and trough this month but a lack of cold air to go along with it. Hope that's not a sign of things to come-nothing worse than a great pattern and storm track only to see 35 and rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 42 this morning, coldest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 7:42 AM, Allsnow said: Ensembles showing first decent cold shot around Halloween as the trough moves out the west disappearing 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Hope that's not a sign of things to come-nothing worse than a great pattern and storm track only to see 35 and rain It can definitely be an issue early in the season like 12-05-20 with a storm bombing out to our SE and no cold. Things got better a few weeks after that. But BGM was favored with the 40” jackpot since the low was so tucked in near ACY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: Hope that's not a sign of things to come-nothing worse than a great pattern and storm track only to see 35 and rain That was 97-98 in a nutshell. Lots of offshore tracks but flooded in Pacific air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: Hope that's not a sign of things to come-nothing worse than a great pattern and storm track only to see 35 and rain Im not sure what everyone is talking about. Outside of first week, we have been a sea of 60s and 50s in day and 40s at night. What exactly are you looking for in early/mid October? Reading these posts you would think we are in an endless stream of 70s and 80s 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Im not sure what everyone is talking about. Outside of first week, we have been a sea of 60s and 50s in day and 40s at night. What exactly are you looking for in early/mid October? Reading these posts you would think we are in an endless stream of 70s and 80s And October and November 97 were below average so careful what you wish for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Im not sure what everyone is talking about. Outside of first week, we have been a sea of 60s and 50s in day and 40s at night. What exactly are you looking for in early/mid October? Reading these posts you would think we are in an endless stream of 70s and 80s Didn't mean it that way, just was noting that it seems like we've had some good blocking last winter but no cold air showed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj08822 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, psv88 said: 42 this morning, coldest of the season. The top of my car was frosty in Nazareth PA (75 miles due west of NYC). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Yeah hit 37 this AM. By comparison I had two hard freezes, coldest down to 30 by tomorrow last year in Oct 2022. Was a third year Niña and not directly comparable but just mentioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Hope that's not a sign of things to come-nothing worse than a great pattern and storm track only to see 35 and rain Its October 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Brian5671 said: schools close here for wet roads and slush on the grass....silly Because one kid slipping on the school sidewalk and getting hurt will cost the school district a lot of money. I worked in schools for 31 years; our most common response to lawyers was " how much?" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, MANDA said: Snooze fest right now. Temperatures are pleasant with chilly nights but overall the pattern at least for now is boring. We have 3 days of bad marine conditions coming up which will be enough to impact migratory fisheries. For mariners it is not a quiet time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: We could have this ...it was PHLs biggest snowfall of the season We got some flurries here. Didn't snow much the rest of the season. Was probably the worst until last winter came along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Because one kid slipping on the school sidewalk and getting hurt will cost the school district a lot of money. I worked in schools for 31 years; our most common response to lawyers was " how much?" Damn lawyers…;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: We could have this ...it was PHLs biggest snowfall of the season Central Union County NJ - October 29, 2011 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dark Star said: 2011 October snow I assume 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, weatherpruf said: Because one kid slipping on the school sidewalk and getting hurt will cost the school district a lot of money. I worked in schools for 31 years; our most common response to lawyers was " how much?" I don't really buy that...lawyers were around in the 70's and 80's. We've just become soft... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Dark Star said: Central Union County NJ - October 11, 2011 28th or 29th wasn't it? And the point being that October snow generally spells bad news for the rest of the winter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: 28th or 29th wasn't it? And the point being that October snow generally spells bad news for the rest of the winter If it were 2011, it was 10/29. The worst day i have ever worked in dispatch in 19 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 A strong cold front coupled with an offshore storm will bring periods of rain tomorrow into Saturday. A general 0.50" to 1.00" rainfall is likely with some locally higher amounts. Afterward, the weekend into early next week will likely see its coolest weather so far this fall. Frost will be possible in areas outside New York City and Newark. The strong cold shot will then be followed by a potentially impressive warmup. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +2.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +1.5°C for the week centered around October 11. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +2.67°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +1.57°C. El Niño conditions will likely continue to strengthen into the fall with the current East-based event transitioning to a basinwide El Niño for the upcoming winter. The SOI was -15.09 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.403 today. On October 16 the MJO was in Phase 7 at an amplitude of 0.346 (RMM). The October 15-adjusted amplitude was 0.486 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 70% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal October (1991-2020 normal). October will likely finish with a mean temperature near 58.7° (0.8° above normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Brian5671 said: I don't really buy that...lawyers were around in the 70's and 80's. We've just become soft... I worked there,I'm telling you what I saw. And I worked in more than one district. Also, employees were prone to sue when they slipped as well. Every walkway has to be cleaned. Or you are liable. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: I worked there,I'm telling you what I saw. And I worked in more than one district. Also, employees were prone to sue when they slipped as well. Every walkway has to be cleaned. Or you are liable. Case closed. You can’t sue your employer if you get hurt at work…you get workers comp. So that cannot be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Brian5671 said: I don't really buy that...lawyers were around in the 70's and 80's. We've just become soft... The world was a different place in the 70’s and 80’s. We live in a society now that is more likely to file a lawsuit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Brian5671 said: schools close here for wet roads and slush on the grass....silly more salt on the roads than snow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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