DavisStraight Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, tamarack said: This, a thousand times. Since Cool Spruce had the stroke (can it be a dozen years?) I've had more conversations here with Jeff than anyone else, and it's not close. Now he's dealing with yet another personal tragedy while in shock for what happened a few miles to his north. Stay strong, Jeff; others in your family need you. You can tell just from interacting with him here that's he's such a good dude, really down to earth salt of the earth type. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monadnocks Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Jeff. my condolences. This is awful, in so many ways. I hope that there's time to get out in the woods and just be there, taking in the peace. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Finally read (CNN) some of the info on the letter found in the Subaru. It said that Card did not think he would be found alive and included directions on who would get what of his possessions. Suicide note? Huge misdirection attempt? Also read that the weapon found in the car was a tactical rifle in .308; crime lab will test it against the bullets found at the crime scenes. That cartridge is far more powerful than the more common .223 found in such rifles, and it's a very common hunting cartridge, nearly as powerful as my .30-06 and its shorter length means faster chambering in a bolt-action rifle. Searching for Card is worse than looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack, because that needle isn't moving, and Maine has loads of "haystacks". LEOs have received 500+ tips as of noon, and if it looks like authorities are chasing their tails, they have to run down all the ones that seem somewhat solid. The one they don't chase may be the one that was valid. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, tamarack said: Finally read (CNN) some of the info on the letter found in the Subaru. It said that Card did not think he would be found alive and included directions on who would get what of his possessions. Suicide note? Huge misdirection attempt? Also read that the weapon found in the car was a tactical rifle in .308; crime lab will test it against the bullets found at the crime scenes. That cartridge is far more powerful than the more common .223 found in such rifles, and it's a very common hunting cartridge, nearly as powerful as my .30-06 and its shorter length means faster chambering in a bolt-action rifle. Searching for Card is worse than looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack, because that needle isn't moving, and Maine has loads of "haystacks". LEOs have received 500+ tips as of noon, and if it looks like authorities are chasing their tails, they have to run down all the ones that seem somewhat solid. The one they don't chase may be the one that was valid. it's unreal, and makes it so hard for families to feel any sense of closure with this guy still free. I've yet to see the official timeline of police response, but I imagine they were 5+ minutes behind him by the time they found his vehicle. that's an eternity and plenty of time for him to escape by vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Very sorry to hear this. Our condolences, jeffSent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, tunafish said: it's unreal, and makes it so hard for families to feel any sense of closure with this guy still free. I've yet to see the official timeline of police response, but I imagine they were 5+ minutes behind him by the time they found his vehicle. that's an eternity and plenty of time for him to escape by vehicle. 5 minutes? My buddy is a cop and he said he may have had like a half hour head start on them, combined with him potentially having an escape plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: 5 minutes? My buddy is a cop and he said he may have had like a half hour head start on them, combined with him potentially having an escape plan. 30 min? JFC. He gon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, tunafish said: 30 min? JFC. He gon That’s what I think, anyway. He bailed each location so quickly that he really had a hell of a head start I think. I also think the note they found is a diversion tactic on his part 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, tunafish said: 30 min? JFC. He gon Yeah and even if he killed himself in the woods somewhere he theoretically may never be found… always leaving people left to wonder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 My condolences to Jeff and your friends and family. I’m sorry man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah and even if he killed himself in the woods somewhere he theoretically may never be found… always leaving people left to wonder. And the conspiracy theories that would bubble up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Sorry for your loss Jeff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Thoughts and prayers to you and yours Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: Yeah and even if he killed himself in the woods somewhere he theoretically may never be found… always leaving people left to wonder. 1 hour ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: And the conspiracy theories that would bubble up. Did we ever find out what type of training he had in military? If he had stealth and survival training then he could live for a long time in the woods…though I suspect he’d have a hard time surviving the winter in back country Maine. Gets so damned cold there. But he could also be in the Everglades by now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, tunafish said: 30 min? JFC. He gon Well if he "planned" an escape of some sort and has food and water and is out in the woods, he will survive for a while.......if he is mobile ,and did not have food/water, my thoughts he will surface somewhere, or he committed suicide . Jeff, like others have mentioned, I am so sorry for what you and your family are going through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Did we ever find out what type of training he had in military? If he had stealth and survival training then he could live for a long time in the woods…though I suspect he’d have a hard time surviving the winter in back country Maine. Gets so damned cold there. But he could also be in the Everglades by now too. I have not heard any military training specifics except that he was a skilled marksman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On a brighter note after all that’s happened this week, Robert Card is dead. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, dryslot said: On a brighter note after all that’s happened this week, Robert Card is dead. Just heard that. Maine State Police have a 10 pm press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, mreaves said: Just heard that. Maine State Police have a 10 pm press conference. I’m in the recycling business, He worked for Maine Recycling, The proximity of the boat launch to where he worked is less then 1 mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, dryslot said: On a brighter note after all that’s happened this week, Robert Card is dead. Great. Best wishes to you and your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Suicide? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Yes, Suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Dead in the same clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, dryslot said: Dead in the same clothes. Any ideas as to leads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Was it in the original plan? Will be interesting to hear if he was planning to get away and felt police were closing in or something v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Rest in piss you cowardice piece of dog shit. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, dryslot said: Dead in the same clothes. Crazy to think this was likely over within 30 minutes of the act. I think he did it and ended himself pretty quickly afterward. Glad you and your community can have that closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Any ideas as to leads? I had a customer of ours tell my oldest today that he was there regular driver to do the picking up weekly but had not seen him for two weeks, I had heard he lost his job but did not know that’s where he worked, Maine Recycling is one of my accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Crazy to think this was likely over within 30 minutes of the act. I think he did it and ended himself pretty quickly afterward. Glad you and your community can have that closure. Yes, Presser at 10 pm it will be national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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