Rd9108 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ahoff said: Been trending that direction lately. Too bad it’s still so early. At the bare minimum it would appear that we are entering a colder pattern. Let's establish the pattern and then see what happens with the snow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Rd9108 said: At the bare minimum it would appear that we are entering a colder pattern. Let's establish the pattern and then see what happens with the snow. Exactly. Currently, though it is very desert like right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 728 AM EST Wed Nov 15 2023 PAZ007>009-013>016-020>022-029-031-073>078-152300- Mercer-Venango-Forest-Lawrence-Butler-Clarion-Jefferson PA-Beaver- Allegheny-Armstrong-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland- Higher Elevations of Westmoreland-Fayette- Higher Elevations of Fayette-Indiana-Higher Elevations of Indiana- Including the cities of Sharon, Hermitage, Grove City, Oil City, Franklin, Tionesta, New Castle, Ellwood City, Butler, Clarion, Punxsutawney, Brookville, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Ligonier, Donegal, Uniontown, Champion, Ohiopyle, Indiana, and Armagh 728 AM EST Wed Nov 15 2023 ...ELEVATED RISK OF WILDFIRE SPREAD THIS AFTERNOON... A combination of dry and windy conditions this afternoon will create an elevated risk of wildfire spread across western Pennsylvania, including Allegheny National Forest. Minimum relative humidity values will range from 20 to 30 percent accompanied by wind gusts between 15 and 20 mph. Residents are urged to exercise caution if handling any potential ignition sources, such as machinery, cigarettes, or matches. If dry grasses and tree litter begin to burn, the fire will have the potential to spread rapidly. For more information about wildfire danger and wildfire prevention and education, please visit the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources website at http://dcnr.pa.gov/Communities/Wildfire. $$ TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 Dropped to 28 this morning, will be wild that it will rise nearly 40 degrees today, just due to dry conditions and not a front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 The US Department of Agriculture released an update to its plant hardiness zone map this morning. Shows portions of southwest Pennsylvania, along the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers, including downtown Pittsburgh, as Zone 7A for the first time. This corresponds to an average annual minimum temperature of 0 to 5F. The rest of southwest Pennsylvania was bumped to Zone 6B, corresponding to an average annual minimum temperature of -5 to 0F. USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map | USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ahoff said: Dropped to 28 this morning, will be wild that it will rise nearly 40 degrees today, just due to dry conditions and not a front. Already into the 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 Just out of curiosity, why would our region be removed from the abnormally dry category on the US Drought monitor? Over the last week we've had nearly no rain and really the last three weeks we've had nearly none. How could we fall out of abnormally dry, especially with fire weather conditions today? I mean we're nearly 8" below average for rain this year, and almost 3" below for the Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 PIT's low of 34F was a whopping 7 degrees below the low temperature observed at AGC, and even 1F lower than BTP (that's pretty rare). Yet no complaints about the accuracy of those readings. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 23 hours ago, Ahoff said: Just out of curiosity, why would our region be removed from the abnormally dry category on the US Drought monitor? Over the last week we've had nearly no rain and really the last three weeks we've had nearly none. How could we fall out of abnormally dry, especially with fire weather conditions today? I mean we're nearly 8" below average for rain this year, and almost 3" below for the Fall. Absolutely astounding. "Abnormally dry" supposedly correlates to conditions that are expected to occur about 1 every 3 or 4 years. I don't know how they are determining it isn't abnormally dry. If we exclude downtown data, and look at all data from the two airport sites, this is the sixth warmest year on record to date [of 88 years]. And the ninth driest of those 88 years, and only about an inch from 5th place on this list: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: PIT's low of 34F was a whopping 7 degrees below the low temperature observed at AGC, and even 1F lower than BTP (that's pretty rare). Yet no complaints about the accuracy of those readings. Go figure. AGC did briefly get to 39 or 40 just before the 8:00 hour. But yeah, there were some hourly obs last night where that difference was 10 or 11 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said: PIT's low of 34F was a whopping 7 degrees below the low temperature observed at AGC, and even 1F lower than BTP (that's pretty rare). Yet no complaints about the accuracy of those readings. Go figure. No it's weird for sure, but showing the temps around the area this morning, showed many different pockets of warm and cool air. Must have been cloudy in certain areas. It made much more sense than seeing a few weeks ago, everywhere around 32 except KPIT at 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Starting to look like maybe a pretty solid cold shot around Thanksgiving. Put xmas lights up today in the beautiful weather. Fingers crossed that doesn't jinx the cold coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 16 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: DuBois also tied a record high of 64F on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 With thanksgiving trending closer to seasonable rather than anomalously cold, we still have a shot at every day in November having a high of 40 or above. We also did it in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, TimB said: With thanksgiving trending closer to seasonable rather than anomalously cold, we still have a shot at every day in November having a high of 40 or above. We also did it in 2020. Still time to trend colder, these things fluctuate. But 2020 was a good winter, I’d take a repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ahoff said: Still time to trend colder, these things fluctuate. But 2020 was a good winter, I’d take a repeat. 2020-21 was a good winter mostly because December was good and started with a big storm on the very first day of meteorological winter, which is looking highly unlikely for a repeat given the El Niño base state and current modeling. Not saying we can’t have a good January/February, but this winter likely isn’t going to look like a carbon copy of 2020-21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, TimB said: 2020-21 was a good winter mostly because December was good and started with a big storm on the very first day of meteorological winter, which is looking highly unlikely for a repeat given the El Niño base state and current modeling. Not saying we can’t have a good January/February, but this winter likely isn’t going to look like a carbon copy of 2020-21. It’s unlikely to look like last year either, so that’s a win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Ahoff said: It’s unlikely to look like last year either, so that’s a win. 1000 percent!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 Maybe something Sunday into Monday? Edit: Maybe not, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Ehh pretty boring start to winter so far. Looks like some cold finally is getting pushed in but no signs of any significant snow in the coming weeks. The real question who will be the lucky poster to start our winter thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 11.6 inches of snow so far in the 2023 calendar year. The least snowiest calendar year on record is 1998, with 10.9 inches. The current second least snowiest calendar year is 1889, with 15.8 inches. However, that value is probably not really comparable to recent snowfall records due to changes in location and station exposure, as well as changes in snowfall measurement procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 We still have December. Wouldn't be too worried yet. Let's get the cold weather in then we can get snow. Seems the biggest issue we have in our current pattern is it's too dry, but if cold outbreaks happen maybe we can get some lake effect. I mean it is only November 26th, give it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Who knows maybe we can catch a band today to atleast get some snow flying in the air. It's frigid out there regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Picked up a light dusting of snow pellets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Getting under a pretty robust band right now, nice to see snow flying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Nice little burst of snow right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Officially had .1" of snow yesterday, I expect we'll see some accumulation today, even though it will be miniscule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 Officially the first morning in the teens. 19 this morning and .3” of snow yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordo74 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 It was nice to get a little blast on winter, but nothing good on the next few days :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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