TimB Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Hopefully we don't have to hear this all winter.... I hope not. If we get another one like last winter, brace yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Rd9108 said: Hopefully we don't have to hear this all winter.... We might have to know that for the fourth time in a decade it didn't snow between December 19th at 8am and December 21st at 4pm, when it only occurred 2 times in the previous 6 decades, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ahoff said: We might have to know that for the fourth time in a decade it didn't snow between December 19th at 8am and December 21st at 4pm, when it only occurred 2 times in the previous 6 decades, lol. Admittedly some of it is a bit cherry picked, but things like reaching the lower 40s later than any other year on record are a little more concrete. I do think we see 30s next week before that massive ridge comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, TimB said: Admittedly some of it is a bit cherry picked, but things like reaching the lower 40s later than any other year on record are a little more concrete. I do think we see 30s next week before that massive ridge comes in. It doesn't look that massive at this point. Forecasts are for 60s after this weekend. That's not that crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 hours ago, TimB said: Admittedly some of it is a bit cherry picked, but things like reaching the lower 40s later than any other year on record are a little more concrete. I do think we see 30s next week before that massive ridge comes in. I'd say it's pretty notable. This is the warmest minimum this late in the fall season in the entire threaded record since 1890, and third warmest overall. Warmest ever at either airport site, and only the third time since records moved out of downtown that it hasn't dropped below 40F by this point in the season. As with many records of this sort, recent history kind of results in it feeling more "normal" than it really is historically, since we had comparable temperatures just 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 And it's also true at many long-period sites especially from Pittsburgh north. Zanesville and Morgantown have had more clearing on some of the chillier nights so the rankings at those sites aren't as impressive at this point. DuBois Wheeling Youngstown, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, TheClimateChanger said: And it's also true at many long-period sites especially from Pittsburgh north. Zanesville and Morgantown have had more clearing on some of the chillier nights so the rankings at those sites aren't as impressive at this point. DuBois Wheeling Youngstown, Ohio Pretty damning to see that we’re deep into October and DuBois has yet to see 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 In a slight turn of events highs only got to 53 today when 56 was forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Regardless of frost or not, looks like that obscure 40 degree record will end early next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Ahoff said: Regardless of frost or not, looks like that obscure 40 degree record will end early next week. Is “first 30s” really any more obscure of a record than first freeze, which is a common weather statistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, TimB said: Is “first 30s” really any more obscure of a record than first freeze, which is a common weather statistic? Not really, considering freeze actually means something, as does frost, as it ends the growing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ahoff said: Not really, considering freeze actually means something, as does frost, as it ends the growing season. Then I guess we’ll also stop keeping track of 90 degree days, since that’s as relevant as 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, TimB said: Then I guess we’ll also stop keeping track of 90 degree days, since that’s as relevant as 39. Sure, makes sense. They're all arbitrary by any standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Finally cleared out and got to 41 at PIT. Coldest morning of the season officially and one day short of the record for latest first lower 40s (1882). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 GFS really gives us one shot at 30s next week. It’s far from guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 NWS seems fairly confident in a frost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 We should be able to seal the deal on our 8th above normal month so far in 2023, against the highest normals of all time. Sitting at +3 with 12 days to go, mostly normal to above. Only May and June have been below normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Freeze Watch URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 203 PM EDT Sat Oct 21 2023 OHZ039>041-048>050-057>059-068-069-PAZ007>009-013>016-020>022-029- 031-073>078-WVZ001>004-012-021-509>514-220130- /O.NEW.KPBZ.FZ.A.0004.231023T0600Z-231023T1300Z/ Tuscarawas-Carroll-Columbiana-Coshocton-Harrison-Jefferson OH- Muskingum-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Mercer-Venango-Forest- Lawrence-Butler-Clarion-Jefferson PA-Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong- Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Higher Elevations of Westmoreland- Fayette-Higher Elevations of Fayette-Indiana- Higher Elevations of Indiana-Hancock-Brooke-Ohio-Marshall-Wetzel- Marion-Monongalia- Ridges of Eastern Monongalia and Northwestern Preston-Preston- Eastern Preston-Western Tucker-Eastern Tucker- Including the cities of New Philadelphia, Dover, Carrollton, Malvern, East Liverpool, Salem, Columbiana, Coshocton, Cadiz, Steubenville, Zanesville, Cambridge, Martins Ferry, St. Clairsville, Caldwell, Woodsfield, Sharon, Hermitage, Grove City, Oil City, Franklin, Tionesta, New Castle, Ellwood City, Butler, Clarion, Punxsutawney, Brookville, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Ligonier, Donegal, Uniontown, Champion, Ohiopyle, Indiana, Armagh, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, Moundsville, New Martinsville, Fairmont, Morgantown, Coopers Rock, Kingwood, Bruceton Mills, Terra Alta, Rowlesburg, Hazelton, Parsons, Hendricks, Saint George, Davis, Thomas, and Canaan Valley 203 PM EDT Sat Oct 21 2023 ...FREEZE WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY MORNING... * WHAT...Sub-freezing temperatures as low as 30 possible. * WHERE...Portions of east central Ohio, northwest, southwest and western Pennsylvania and northern and the northern panhandle of West Virginia. * WHEN...From late Sunday night through Monday morning. * IMPACTS...Frost and freeze conditions could kill crops, other sensitive vegetation and possibly damage unprotected outdoor plumbing. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Take steps now to protect tender plants from the cold. To prevent freezing and possible bursting of outdoor water pipes they should be wrapped, drained, or allowed to drip slowly. Those that have in-ground sprinkler systems should drain them and cover above- ground pipes to protect them from freezing. && $$ CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Uh oh. 30s aren’t a slam dunk. Our quest for the first October ever without 30s is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, TimB said: Uh oh. 30s aren’t a slam dunk. MY quest for the first October ever without 30s is still alive. Fixed it for you, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Well looks like we got there and then some, before midnight even so yesterday’s low was 37 and looks like today’s will go into the books as 33 or 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 Down to 34. Small chance at freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Looks like AGC managed a freeze on the hourly obs. PIT is going to come up just short at 33, it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, TimB said: Looks like AGC managed a freeze on the hourly obs. PIT is going to come up just short at 33, it appears. Cooler than I expected, honestly. Was thinking 36-37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghPirates27 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 got to 28.9 Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 As we head towards winter, it's a good time to review the snowfall history at Pittsburgh. These are all based on single calendar day figures, not 24-hour totals which can span two days or storm totals, for that matter, which can span 2 or even more days. Obviously, the bad thing about this approach is it misses storms spanning multiple days, such as February 5-6, 2010, with a total of 21.1" of snow. There have been 87 calendar days with at least 6.0" of snow; 50 with at least 8.0" of snow; 26 with at least 10.0" of snow; 11 with at least 12.0" of snow; 5 with at least 14.0" of snow; 4 with at least 16.0" of snow; and 2 with at least 18.0" or more of snow. The most snow observed in a calendar day is 23.6" of snow, on March 13, 1993. The second most snow observed in a calendar day is 22.0" of snow, on December 17, 1890. Those are the only 2 calendar days with greater than 1-1/2 feet of snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 PIT: AGC: Not sure I’ve ever seen that much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, TimB said: PIT: AGC: Not sure I’ve ever seen that much of a difference. Not sure I believe it either. Was just downtown. It is warm but not 70+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Also, am I missing something here? Does that not show the 12:51 pm temp at 45, and that it is about 4pm now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ahoff said: Also, am I missing something here? Does that not show the 12:51 pm temp at 45, and that it is about 4pm now? Time is in UTC for whatever reason. No idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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