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Wake Me Up When September Ends..Obs/Diso


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1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

yep a half inch of rain spread over a day isn't much different that 2 inches...

In the real sense of it, I agree. You’re not gonna be doing yard work or hanging outside on your patio, or eating outside at your favorite pub/restaurant.   Ya you won’t flood with a half to 3/4 of an inch, but the sensible weather still sucks. 
 

If it was snow, and you’re talking 3-6”, vs 18-24”+,  then sure that’s a huge difference in that regard. But this is rain, and wet is wet. 

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1 minute ago, WinterWolf said:

In the real sense of it, I agree. You’re not gonna be doing yard work or hanging outside on your patio, or eating outside at your favorite pub/restaurant.   Ya you won’t flood with a half to 3/4 of an inch, the sensible weather still sucks. 
 

If it was snow, and you’re talking 3-6”, vs 18-24”+,  then sure that’s a huge difference in that regard. But this is rain, and wet is wet. 

that's part of the reason no one mentions rain busting....if the forecast is for 2 inches and it rains .50, it's still a rainy day-with snow everyone's hollering bust when it happens

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2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

that's part of the reason no one mentions rain busting....if the forecast is for 2 inches and it rains .50, it's still a rainy day-with snow everyone's hollering bust when it happens

Absolutely.  And that’s our point.  Nobody cares if it’s 1 or 2 or a half inch…it doesn’t really matter as you said.  Weekend is shot. 

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1 hour ago, WinterWolf said:

Shocker. When aren’t they above?  That doesn’t bother me at all. I’ll take my chances. Last year was the worst, no way we beat(get worse)than last years rat here…no way. 

Plus ( for the 187th time ...)

... those categories don't 'ruin' winter - so to speak.  They don't quantitatively define the extent of any anomaly.

They literally just mean, there is an above normal chance for above normal.

Nothing else. 

This point is either tactically evaded ... or, not understood despite the explained 187 (est lol ) remedial course work.  Even a Down's student would get it by now for f'sake

I mean seriously, can this point get across once and for all ?  

If the winter averaged .01 F above normal, ...guess what?   that product NAILED it!   But .01 above normal with an actually coupled warm ENSO hemisphere would bury everyone alive N of Jersey. 

Now... it is just unfortunate enough that 'above normal' could also mean the warmest winter in history.  Sure.  

But for now the 188th time ( est ) ...that product does not ruin winter. It only says 'chances of above normal' and nothing else.  It should not be used as NARCAN ...nor divisively by those that want to yank short brown ones - either way.

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Plus ( for the 187th time ...)

... those categories don't 'ruin' winter - so to speak.  They don't quantitatively define the extent of any anomaly.

They literally just mean, there is an above normal chance for above normal.

Nothing else. 

This point is either tactically evaded ... or, not understood despite the explained 187 (est lol ) remedial course work.  Even a Down's student would get it by now for f'sake

I mean seriously, can this point get across once and for all ?  

If the winter averaged .01 F above normal, ...guess what?   that product NAILED it!   But .01 above normal with an actually coupled warm ENSO hemisphere would bury everyone alive N of Jersey. 

Now... it is just unfortunate enough that 'above normal' could also mean the warmest winter in history.  Sure.  

But for now the 188th time ( est ) ...that product does not ruin winter. It only says 'chances of above normal' and nothing else.  It should not be used as NARCAN ...nor divisively by those that want to yank short brown ones

Exactly…I completely understand their silly maps. And I agree 100%. 

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I'm staring to lean more blocking, myself. 

I think there is some synoptic oomph for imposing isentropic lift over the region on Saturday. But even it would seem more intense SW, vs NE zones of SNE.  By Sunday morning...  I could see this trend in the models to "split" the overrunning momentum E, while the residual Ophelia is held back closer to bombing eastern PA/NJ with a flood threat.

Obviously we've all been onto this weekend's synoptic shenanigans, no need to readdress. But I just think along years of experience with these evolving deformation axis, roughly ALB to BOS ...and they usually end up correcting the moisture to a pretty sharp gradient as far as what ends up in buckets.

 

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6 minutes ago, dendrite said:

50-60% chance for above

So 40-50% chance for near normal or below. 

But snowfall here is more dependent on precip than temp anyway. 

at some point you just have to move on  haha. 

cuz despite the cleanliness of our efforts, we'll go through this exact same game next Sept/Oct, with the same people posting those red(blue) colors apparently basing a NARCAN(dopamine) dose upon them.

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3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Something to look forward to ?

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Some forecast :lol:

Just threw all strong EL Nino's together. Yes, strong EL Nino's have a tendency to be above-average in terms of temperatures across the northern-tier of the country, but there are strong EL Nino's which were colder. Can't just throw a bunch of years into a composite and call it a forecast or outlook.

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