Wake Me Up When September Ends..Obs/Diso

[BrianW]

For GON and HVN to rank in the top 10 for CDD I would call that a warm summer. 

Both HVN and GON have put up positive temperature departures every month ytd as well. 

GON

 

 

HVN

[Damage In Tolland]

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We measure on temps. What a bullshit artist.  

That’s what Shabbs always tells . HDD and CDD. Who cares if temps were -1 if it’s humid? That’s why no one cares about tenps. It’s dews 

[forkyfork]

25 minutes ago, Modfan2 said:

Dews do not equal hot

actually moist air contains more heat than dry air

[Damage In Tolland]

Foliage season is going to be brutal. The wet humid summer already had the season as pastel and blights . Add in a cane throwing salt water way inland and leaf stripping and tree damage. There may not be one at all 

[HoarfrostHubb]

Just now, forkyfork said:

actually moist air contains more heat than dry air

Contains more thermal energy

[CoastalWx]

6 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

That’s what Shabbs always tells . HDD and CDD. Who cares if temps were -1 if it’s humid? That’s why no one cares about tenps. It’s dews 

Facts are facts. BN summer. 

[CoastalWx]

Now September will be warm. No doubt. 

[powderfreak]

16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

We measure on temps. What a bullshit artist.  

It feels like a discussion where one wants to make sure below normal doesn’t equal cold.    Just like how above normal in January doesn’t mean it was hot.

But we use departures to measure temperatures, it is what it is.

[Damage In Tolland]

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Facts are facts. BN summer. 

How often has your AC been on?

[Damage In Tolland]

6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Now September will be warm. No doubt. 

Does ACATT agree with that?

[powderfreak]

9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Now September will be warm. No doubt. 

Yeah this is going to absolutely torch. +5 type month it seems, ha.

[powderfreak]

8 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

How often has your AC been on?

How does one quantify that vs normal vs below normal?

Below normal to above normal can be the difference between 82F and 85F for highs.  Probably running A/C in both cases.

Just like in January, you’re heat is still on whether the month is -2F or +6.

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

We are a nation of wusses

 

57 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

We are a nation of litigation.

Powderfreak nailed it. All these school closures come down concerns over litigation. Kid slips on some slush and suddenly the school district is on the hook for a million bucks 

[ORH_wxman]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

2009 was cooler 

2009 was the coldest June/July combo on record at Logan. That’s a tough bar to breach. Hard enough getting the entire JJA period BN in this regime so that alone is a nice change. 

[powderfreak]

11 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

 

Powderfreak nailed it. All these school closures come down concerns over litigation. Kid slips on some slush and suddenly the school district is on the hook for a million bucks 

The differences were on display when I was in Europe… there was a bunch of stuff that I was like no way in hell would that fly in the United States.  And people would be like why not? Why can’t those people be doing maintenance on a hotel roof 100 feet off the ground with no fall protection? It’s their choice. Lol.

People and companies get sued day and night in the US… and some of it is good, better workers rights/OSHA stuff, and better safety on consumer products, better building codes, etc.

But on the flip side our litigation society means everyone is wondering how liable they will be for every decision.  Kid passes out in the heat in a classroom, hits his head,  parents are in an uproar because the school knew there was a Heat Warning/Advisory and they don’t have A/C or fans.  School then needs to pay that family in a settlement out of court.

[forkyfork]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Facts are facts. BN summer. 

with a top ten warm july sprinkled in 

[HoarfrostHubb]

I did find it odd that we went JJA without any big high temp stretches.   That seems uncommon.    
 

A day of 90 here and there.    
 

The high minimums really drove the tenor of the season.  Due to dews of course

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

with a top ten warm july sprinkled in 

1 90F day with mostly nights driving it. Very humid for sure, but temp wise during the day was unimpressive. Not even sure it was top 10 overall across the region.  I know up north it was a furnace relative to anomalies.

[WxWatcher007]

I don’t really get this argument. Heat is the number one wx related killer and can cause serious illness more easily than any other type of wx. We don’t usually see basically the hottest stretch of the summer in September. A classroom without AC and 20-25 kids in it for hours at a time isn’t going to be whatever the temperature is outside, it’ll probably be warmer, not to mention temperatures on school buses. 

Subjecting kids to that because of some perception that we did it when we were younger and turned out fine makes little sense to me. 

It’s easy to blame “society of litigation”, but I think a lot of people wildly oversimplify how litigation actually works, especially when it comes to government entities. 

[Damage In Tolland]

11 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I did find it odd that we went JJA without any big high temp stretches.   That seems uncommon.    
 

A day of 90 here and there.    
 

The high minimums really drove the tenor of the season.  Due to dews of course

Ding ding ding . That offsets any blues 

[kdxken]

3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

I don’t really get this argument. Heat is the number one wx related killer and can cause serious illness more easily than any other type of wx. We don’t usually see basically the hottest stretch of the summer in September. A classroom without AC and 20-25 kids in it for hours at a time isn’t going to be whatever the temperature is outside, it’ll probably be warmer, not to mention temperatures on school buses. 

Subjecting kids to that because of some perception that we did it when we were younger and turned out fine makes little sense to me. 

It’s easy to blame “society of litigation”, but I think a lot of people wildly oversimplify how litigation actually works, especially when it comes to government entities. 

Exactly. Blow seemed like a pretty good idea in the early '80s.

[kdxken]

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Ding ding ding . That offsets any blues 

If it did they would be reds. They're not.

[BrianW]

Today's highs for CT.

 

[CoastalWx]

7 minutes ago, kdxken said:

If it did they would be reds. They're not.

Beer obviously 

[Damage In Tolland]

No one in the wx community or not would call or consider this a cool chilly summer . It simply wasn’t . It was warm and humid and wet . 

[CoastalWx]

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

No one in the wx community or not would call or consider this a cool chilly summer . It simply wasn’t . It was warm and humid and wet . 

[Damage In Tolland]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

Science 

[CoastalWx]

Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

Science fiction

Yep 

[powderfreak]

39 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Beer obviously 

This seems like a semantics argument, not a science-driven temp departure argument.

72/70 and soupy.  We are getting crushed with positive departures right now, haha.  Normal is 74/49.

[SouthCoastMA]

dews back up

74/69