schoeppeya Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Finally seeing really intense sustained convection over the center of the storm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Eric Webb @webberweather Fwiw, #Idalia's current analyzed minimum central pressure (SLP) on the latest NHC advisory is in the bottom 4% of all 35-40 knot tropical storms in this part of the Atlantic basin since 1970. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAwx Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hotair said: I’m very concerned over a potential Tampa LF. This storm is not on many folks radar and given it’s already late Sunday and folks go to school and work tomorrow means there’s less free time for any proper preparation Ready to roll out of Zone A but yeah this is going to surprise a lot of folks. We’ll see if the Tampa Bay No Majors in 102 years streak holds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 The GEFS trended south, lots of members are supporting tracks similar to the Euro, UKMET and CMC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Dry air to the north still remains upshear of the storm. While this recent pulse is the most impressive we've seen, Idalia hasn't done much to moisten the environment ahead of it, as such this dry air will continue be pushed into and entrained within the circulation. Unlikely that this current convection over the center will maintain itself long enough to facilitate substantial organization before dry air eats away at it a bit. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just received this: Tropical Storm Idalia Local Statement Advisory Number 5 FLZ041-044>046-053-058-141-144-154-159-164-247-254-259-264-347-447-547-647-747-280430- Tropical Storm Idalia Local Statement Advisory Number 5 National Weather Service Melbourne FL AL102023 615 PM EDT Sun Aug 27 2023 This product covers East Central Florida **Tropical Storm Watch In Effect for Lake County** NEW INFORMATION --------------- * CHANGES TO WATCHES AND WARNINGS: - A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for Northern Lake and Southern Lake * CURRENT WATCHES AND WARNINGS: - A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for Northern Lake and Southern Lake * STORM INFORMATION: - About 640 miles south-southwest of Leesburg FL - 20.1N 85.5W - Storm Intensity 40 mph - Movement Northeast or 40 degrees at 3 mph SITUATION OVERVIEW ------------------ The center of Tropical Storm Idalia is located just over 120 miles south of western Cuba this afternoon. Idalia is slowly drifting to the northeast, and motion is expected to remain slow and possibly erratic overnight, before increasing in speed to the north-northeast on Monday and Tuesday. The storm is currently forecast to approach the western Florida Peninsula late Tuesday into Wednesday. Preparations should be ongoing for at least tropical storm conditions by midweek. A Tropical Storm Watch is now in effect for Lake County, where confidence is highest in tropical storm conditions occurring. Additional watches may be necessary for portions of east-central Florida in future forecasts. Moisture associated with Idalia will reach central Florida as early as Monday afternoon, boosting rain and thunderstorm chances during the day. Conditions will begin to deteriorate Tuesday afternoon and evening as Idalia accelerates north-northeastward across the eastern Gulf of Mexico. As coverage of showers and squalls increases Tuesday afternoon into Wednesday, the possibility of strong to damaging wind gusts will also increase. Tropical storm force winds are forecast to extend outward from the storm`s center, potentially reaching portions of east-central Florida, including Lake County, Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. Based on the current forecast track, Idalia will make its closest pass to east-central Florida late Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, continuing northeastward during the day on Wednesday. While the heaviest rainfall from Idalia is currently forecast to fall along the Gulf Coast and western Florida Peninsula, gusty squalls will be capable of torrential downpours, especially Tuesday and Wednesday. One to two inches of rain from Monday afternoon through Wednesday night is expected for a large portion of the area, with locally higher amounts possible. Locations in closer proximity to the center of Idalia, such as Lake County in east-central Florida, may receive higher rainfall totals. In addition to strong wind gusts, a threat for tornadoes is forecast to develop as the center of Idalia moves into the eastern Gulf of Mexico Tuesday afternoon, Tuesday night and into Wednesday. Combined swells from Hurricane Franklin over the western Atlantic and the approach of Idalia will likely lead to high seas, rough surf, and an increase in life-threatening rip currents. Eastward adjustments to the current forecast track would also increase the threat for possible beach erosion and coastal flooding Tuesday into Wednesday. Do not let your guard down, especially in locations east of the current Tropical Storm Watch. Impacts from Idalia will be experienced far from the center of the storm. Now is the time to ensure your hurricane supply kit is stocked and your safety plan is in place. As Idalia becomes better organized over the next 24 to 36 hours, additional changes to the current forecast are possible. Eastward shifts in the forecast track would increase the potential for impacts locally, so continue to monitor the latest forecasts from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service in Melbourne, Florida. POTENTIAL IMPACTS ----------------- * WIND: Prepare for hazardous wind having possible limited impacts across East Central Florida. Potential impacts include: - Damage to porches, awnings, carports, sheds, and unanchored mobile homes. Unsecured lightweight objects blown about. - Many large tree limbs broken off. A few trees snapped or uprooted, but with greater numbers in places where trees are shallow rooted. Some fences and roadway signs blown over. - A few roads impassable from debris, particularly within urban or heavily wooded places. Hazardous driving conditions on bridges and other elevated roadways. - Scattered power and communications outages. * FLOODING RAIN: Prepare for dangerous rainfall flooding having possible significant impacts across Lake County. Potential impacts include: - Moderate rainfall flooding may prompt several evacuations and rescues. - Rivers and tributaries may quickly become swollen with swifter currents and overspill their banks in a few places, especially in usually vulnerable spots. Small streams, creeks, canals, and ditches overflow. - Flood waters can enter some structures or weaken foundations. Several places may experience expanded areas of rapid inundation at underpasses, low-lying spots, and poor drainage areas. Some streets and parking lots take on moving water as storm drains and retention ponds overflow. Driving conditions become hazardous. Some road and bridge closures. Prepare for locally hazardous rainfall flooding having possible limited impacts across the remainder of East Central Florida. * TORNADOES: Prepare for a tornado event having possible limited impacts across East Central Florida. Potential impacts include: - The occurrence of isolated tornadoes can hinder the execution of emergency plans during tropical events. - A few places may experience tornado damage, along with power and communications disruptions. - Locations could realize roofs peeled off buildings, chimneys toppled, mobile homes pushed off foundations or overturned, large tree tops and branches snapped off, shallow-rooted trees knocked over, moving vehicles blown off roads, and small boats pulled from moorings. * SURGE: Direct surge impacts from Idalia are not currently anticipated at this time. However, larger swells and surf combined with Hurricane Franklin will bring a threat for minor coastal flooding and beach erosion.Locations more vulnerable to coastal flooding and beach erosion, such as portions of the Volusia County coast, should stay updated on the latest forecasts. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS ---------------------------------- * EVACUATIONS: Listen to local officials for recommended preparedness actions, including possible evacuation. If ordered to evacuate, do so immediately. * OTHER PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION: Now is the time to check your emergency plan and emergency supplies kit and take necessary actions to protect your family and secure your home or business. When making safety and preparedness decisions, do not focus on the exact forecast track since hazards such as flooding rain, damaging wind gusts, storm surge, and tornadoes extend well away from the center of the storm. When securing your property, outside preparations should be concluded as soon as possible before conditions deteriorate. The onset of strong gusty winds or flooding can cause certain preparedness activities to become unsafe. Closely monitor weather.gov, NOAA Weather Radio and local news outlets for official storm information. Listen for possible changes to the forecast. There is a threat from tornadoes with this storm. Have multiple ways to receive Tornado Warnings. * ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF INFORMATION: - For information on appropriate preparations see ready.gov - For information on creating an emergency plan see getagameplan.org - For additional disaster preparedness information see redcross.org NEXT UPDATE ----------- The next local statement will be issued by the National Weather Service in Melbourne FL around 12 AM EDT, or sooner if conditions warrant. $$ Schaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Boston Bulldog said: Dry air to the north still remains upshear of the storm. While this recent pulse is the most impressive we've seen, Idalia hasn't done much to moisten the environment ahead of it, as such this dry air will continue be pushed into and entrained within the circulation. Unlikely that this current convection over the center will maintain itself long enough to facilitate substantial organization before dry air eats away at it a bit. This x100. Until we can get persistent convection over the center and convection rotating upshear it'll be hard to build a core. Guidance does have that happen eventually but it may take some time. It'll be interesting to see what recon finds tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: This x100. Until we can get persistent convection over the center and convection rotating upshear it'll be hard to build a core. Guidance does have that happen eventually but it may take some time. It'll be interesting to see what recon finds tonight. Radar looks like it’s definitely attempting to wrap thunderstorms on the up shear side of the storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 @tbrite89 just said the following: IF tropical storm (soon to be #hurricane #Idalia) were to achieve MH intensity and make landfall in the area between Apalachicola and Horseshoe Beach, FL…it will be the first known occurrence in recorded history (dating back to 1851). For the area between Horseshoe Beach and Cedar Key, it was 1896. For Cedar Key to Spring Hill, 1950. Spring Hill to Tampa, 1921. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Buoy near Idalia showing rapid pressure drop. Storm could be intensifying rapidly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Dry air to the north still remains upshear of the storm. While this recent pulse is the most impressive we've seen, Idalia hasn't done much to moisten the environment ahead of it, as such this dry air will continue be pushed into and entrained within the circulation. Unlikely that this current convection over the center will maintain itself long enough to facilitate substantial organization before dry air eats away at it a bit.Dr. Cowan’s video has some great info on this!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Storm surge would be disastrous for parts of St Pete and along the Tampa Bay region even if LF ends up being well North of us. 11 ft in the bend would literally bury many communities in water along the armpit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hotair said: Storm surge would be disastrous for parts of St Pete and along the Tampa Bay region even if LF ends up being well North of us. 11 ft in the bend would literally bury many communities in water along the armpit This was a 3ft storm surge in Gulfport, FL during TS Debbie: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Two things that make Idalia seem ominous: 1) The forecast track adjustments for multiple advisories in a row is heading toward the biggest population centers, not away (e.g. Irma away from Miami, and at the end, Ian away from Tampa Bay). One more eastward adjustment brings landfall to Cedar Key, and that track change plus any increase in intensity forecast would send the 5-8’ storm surge zone to include Tampa Bay. 2) There was so much more notice for Ian and especially Irma (Cat 5 monster days away). Tuesday night, Idalia will be at the latitude of Tampa Bay. We’re going to be within the ideal start of the evacuation timeframe by the end of this evening. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Best case would be if it somehow came in South of Tampa Bay, mainly because it would limit surge into the bay plus would have significantly less time over the water. As far as rate of intensification, as noted above you will probably see dry air eat away at the convection trying to establish itself for a while. Probably intensifying at the moment, but will likely only see short bursts of intensification until it can get rid of the dry air and get north of Cuba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAwx Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Prospero said: This was a 3ft storm surge in Gulfport, FL during TS Debbie: TS Eta's endgame track across Cedar Key in Nov 2020 gave us 4 ft along Bayshore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstuess Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 CIMSS AI-RI showing highest likehood of 45 knots gain over 36 hrs. 1/3 chnace if much higher RI Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Storm has wrapped convection all the way around the circulation including the ups head side, not convinced it’s not off to the races Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: Storm has wrapped convection all the way around the circulation including the ups head side, not convinced it’s not off to the races Fading light on the vis loop shows a big explosion over the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, TPAwx said: TS Eta's endgame track across Cedar Key in Nov 2020 gave us 4 ft along Bayshore. Downtown Gulfport was impacted as well. https://thegabber.com/eta-packs-a-punch-in-gulfport/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Hotair said: I’m very concerned over a potential Tampa LF. This storm is not on many folks radar and given it’s already late Sunday and folks go to school and work tomorrow means there’s less free time for any proper preparation Hasn't there been a state of emergency already ordered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kevin Reilly said: Hasn't there been a state of emergency already ordered? https://www.fox13news.com/weather/tropical-depression-10-sunday-idalia-track-forecast-florida State of Emergency Ahead of the storm, Gov. Ron DeSantis on Saturday declared a state of emergency for 33 Florida counties, including the Tampa Bay Area, "out of an abundance of caution." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I know Idalia is forecast to speed up, but how fast of a forward speed are we looking at for landfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, dan11295 said: I know Idalia is forecast to speed up, but how fast of a forward speed are we looking at for landfall? I think there’s still a fairly sizable split on it, but odds seem to be increasing that it’ll be moving pretty quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Well timed microwave pass gives us a good look under the hood 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 38 mph winds with gusts to 49 at the Yucatan Basin Buoy in the past hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I don't think the circulation is vertically stacked just yet, as impressive as the convective burst is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Nice sunset right now on Cozumel: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, dan11295 said: I know Idalia is forecast to speed up, but how fast of a forward speed are we looking at for landfall? Gfs goes from landfall in the big bend to being over cape fear in 18 hours. That's pretty quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, dan11295 said: I don't think the circulation is vertically stacked just yet, as impressive as the convective burst is. When the circulation becomes vertically stacked you have a Category 1. So of course, circulation is not stacked as we don't have a category 1 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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