ineedsnow Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Steering pattern just doesn’t look conducive for a strike after DR/Haiti and maybe Bermuda. Just discussing though—I still believe we need to get this out of the Caribbean to see what eventual long term track looks like as it moves north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Recon and visual satellite both showing the center is a full 2 degrees west of where NHC has it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, WxWatcher007 said: Steering pattern just doesn’t look conducive for a strike after DR/Haiti and maybe Bermuda. Just discussing though—I still believe we need to get this out of the Caribbean to see what eventual long term track looks like as it moves north. Honestly a system cutting NE from the carribbean is highly unusual in August. Seems El Niño-y to me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Well the Euro keeps Atlantic Canada on the table. Still worth watching closely there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, cptcatz said: Recon and visual satellite both showing the center is a full 2 degrees west of where NHC has it... Gotta wonder if there will be a reformation after landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Gotta wonder if there will be a reformation after landfall. Id bank on it. Current LLC seems to be moving west and will probably die under the shear (it’s already weak at best). With the ongoing convective flare ups east I would be shocked if a new center didn’t form under them at some point. This system shows just how hostile the environment is, however 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Id bank on it. Current LLC seems to be moving west and will probably die under the shear (it’s already weak at best). With the ongoing convective flare ups east I would be shocked if a new center didn’t form under them at some point. This system shows just how hostile the environment is, however Yeah, for now at least. Euro is faster with intensification after landfall but guidance has been waivering back and forth on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Honestly a system cutting NE from the carribbean is highly unusual in August. Seems El Niño-y to me I would say yes to this because typically there are many upper-level lows and shear during El Nino years, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shanemacdonald23 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yeah looks like out to sea here in Nova Scotia after todays runs , and i did notice i feel like i was following this for 2 weeks lol but each day its delayed on arrival up this end , i guess models are having a hard time giving what Franklin is doing right now . really depends on after it moves out of the Caribbean will we see some consensus within the models . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, shanemacdonald23 said: Yeah looks like out to sea here in Nova Scotia after todays runs , and i did notice i feel like i was following this for 2 weeks lol but each day its delayed on arrival up this end , i guess models are having a hard time giving what Franklin is doing right now . really depends on after it moves out of the Caribbean will we see some consensus within the models . Oh it’s definitely still worth watching in NS. Small upper level changes could still make a big difference for Atlantic Canada—whether that’s more direct impact or no impact at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Lol at the HFAI (?) intensity forecast this morning. Just your run of the mill 175 knot peak 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 8 hours ago, WxWatcher007 said: Oh it’s definitely still worth watching in NS. Small upper level changes could still make a big difference for Atlantic Canada—whether that’s more direct impact or no impact at all. Looks like no threat to the US despite what some people are saying on social media . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Lol at the HFAI (?) intensity forecast this morning. Just your run of the mill 175 knot peak I know! Don't think I've ever seen that, even with hurricanes that are already cat 5s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MJO812 said: Looks like no threat to the US despite what some people are saying on social media . Canada only, if that. EPS west/GEFS east. The means have been offshore, however, and have generally shifted more in that direction the last 24 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Landfall Tropical Storm Franklin Discussion Number 12 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL082023 1100 AM EDT Wed Aug 23 2023 Franklin's center appears to have made landfall a little to the south of Barahona, Dominican Republic, shortly before 1200 UTC, and it is now moving northward over the mountainous terrain of the country. Heavy rains have likely overspread much of Hispaniola, although the deepest convection is occurring along the south-central coast of the island. It is assumed that the maximum winds have decreased now that the center is over land, and the initial intensity is set at 35 kt, which is close to the latest UW-CIMSS AiDT and D-PRINT estimates. Franklin's speed has picked up a bit, and it is moving toward the north (005 degrees) at 11 kt. The storm continues to move northward through a break in the subtropical ridge, but it is expected to turn northeastward in the next 24-36 hours when it becomes positioned near the southern extent of a large mid-latitude trough over the western Atlantic. Then, in about 3 days, the central Atlantic ridge is expected to strengthen and block Franklin's eastward progress, forcing the storm to turn toward the north by days 4 and 5. The track guidance is tightly clustered during the first 60-72 hours of the forecast, and the NHC track forecast is very close to the previous prediction and the various consensus aids. After 72 hours, the guidance suggests that the northward turn may be a little delayed. In response, the NHC track has been shifted a bit to the east of the previous forecast at days 4 and 5. Franklin will still be affected by moderate-to-strong west-southwesterly shear when it moves off the coast of Hispaniola later today, so it will likely take some time for the circulation to reorganize itself after moving over the rugged terrain. Otherwise, environmental conditions should support gradual strengthening starting in about 24 hours. In about 3 days, a developing upper-level low near the Bahamas is likely to provide a more favorable diffluent environment aloft over Franklin, potentially fostering more significant strengthening. Although there is a fairly wide range of intensity possibilities in the deterministic and ensemble intensity guidance on days 3-5, the overall guidance envelope has been trending higher. The NHC intensity forecast follows that tendency and is higher than the previous forecast on days 4 and 5. KEY MESSAGES: 1. Heavy rainfall from Franklin is expected across much of Hispaniola into Thursday, which is expected to produce significant and potentially life-threatening flash and urban flooding as well as mudslides, particularly over central Hispaniola. 2. Franklin is bringing tropical storm conditions to portions of the Dominican Republic and Haiti, where Tropical Storm Warnings are in effect, and tropical storm conditions are expected to begin within the Turks and Caicos Islands later today or tonight. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 23/1500Z 18.9N 70.9W 35 KT 40 MPH...OVER DOMINICAN REPUB. 12H 24/0000Z 20.5N 70.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...OVER WATER 24H 24/1200Z 22.1N 69.5W 40 KT 45 MPH 36H 25/0000Z 22.8N 68.2W 50 KT 60 MPH 48H 25/1200Z 23.1N 67.0W 55 KT 65 MPH 60H 26/0000Z 23.4N 66.0W 60 KT 70 MPH 72H 26/1200Z 24.3N 65.7W 65 KT 75 MPH 96H 27/1200Z 27.3N 66.7W 80 KT 90 MPH 120H 28/1200Z 31.1N 67.6W 90 KT 105 MPH $$ Forecaster Berg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 There’s a growing chance Franklin becomes the first MH of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Franklin looking very healthy as it crosses DR/Haiti. Nice outflow and banding. Low shear and warm water ahead should get Franklin to Hurricane status with not much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 12z guidance also moved back toward more direct impacts in Atlantic Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsman Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5pm advisory out. They'll likely be strong currents and waves for the east coast coming up. Already seeing 6-10' wave forecasts offshore OBX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, marsman said: 5pm advisory out. They'll likely be strong currents and waves for the east coast coming up. Already seeing 6-10' wave forecasts offshore OBX. Surfers dream week incoming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 hours ago, MANDA said: Franklin looking very healthy as it crosses DR/Haiti. Nice outflow and banding. Low shear and warm water ahead should get Franklin to Hurricane status with not much trouble. Kinda surprised an already struggling moderate TS wasn't absolutely destroyed by the (in)famous Shredderola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: Kinda surprised an already struggling moderate TS wasn't absolutely destroyed by the (in)famous Shredderola. I feel like we've seen a lot of this lately. I don't recall many storms in recent years being significantly disrupted by the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola. Now that the center is offshore, it's a short flight for recon as they head toward the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: Kinda surprised an already struggling moderate TS wasn't absolutely destroyed by the (in)famous Shredderola. The ones that are struggling / weak on their way in tend not to be disrupted as much as something with a well developed core. Just my opinion. I've seen this happen in the past. If it is weak and in a moist lower shear environment it tends to fair better. We'll see what it does in the days ahead but seems to me it should reach hurricane intensity without much trouble. Franklin will tally up some ACE points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 13 hours ago, MJO812 said: Looks like no threat to the US despite what some people are saying on social media . Yo be fair, I posted to Twitter/X, with a zoomed 18Z GFS ensembles with a 985 mb headed for Nantucket. Sure, it was the leftmost outlier, but #MAwx people need some excitement. I actually think the W. Coast of Florida, or maybe the E Gulf, is likely the only US hurricane threat area, if not next week, in late September or October. I feel safe in Texas. Which is good, I wasn't as fat, and didn't need CPAP after Ike. Didn't lose power during Harvey, but parishioners at our church drowned during Harvey, and I do use CPAP now. Now I just weenie, just a little, for other people's storms. I'll still weenie for a Houston winter weather event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 5 hours ago, WxWatcher007 said: 12z guidance also moved back toward more direct impacts in Atlantic Canada. 18z GEFS took a huge step west.. they could see something for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Looks like some modest organization in between passes. Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)Transmitted: 24th day of the month at 1:07ZAgency: United States Air ForceAircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF96-5300Storm Name: FranklinStorm Number & Year: 08 in 2023 (flight in the North Atlantic basin)Mission Number: 6Observation Number: 10 ( See all messages of this type for this mission. )A. Time of Center Fix: 24th day of the month at 0:40:10ZB. Center Fix Coordinates: 20.86N 70.54WB. Center Fix Location: 57 statute miles (92 km) to the SE (137°) from Cockburn Town, Turks and Caicos Islands (U.K.).C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,461m (4,793ft) at 850mbD. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1003mb (29.62 inHg)E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 200° at 9kts (From the SSW at 10mph)F. Eye Character: Not AvailableG. Eye Shape: Not AvailableH. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 32kts (36.8mph)I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 50 nautical miles (58 statute miles) to the SW (223°) of center fix at 0:25:30ZJ. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 273° at 26kts (From the W at 29.9mph)K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles to the SSW (205°) of center fix at 0:37:30ZL. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 40kts (46.0mph)M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 29 nautical miles (33 statute miles) to the NE (41°) of center fix at 0:49:30ZN. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 129° at 41kts (From the SE at 47.2mph)O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles) to the NE (42°) of center fix at 0:50:30ZP. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,524m (5,000ft)Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,523m (4,997ft)R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 7°C (45°F)R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not AvailableS. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind, Pressure and TemperatureS. Fix Levels (surface & flight level centers within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mbT. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical milesT. Meteorological Accuracy: 2 nautical milesRemarks Section: Maximum Flight Level Wind: 41kts (~ 47.2mph) which was observed 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles) to the NE (42°) from the flight level center at 0:50:30Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Hispaniola used to be shredzilla for storms but recently they’ve become immune to it. Franklins circulation looks better defined now than at any point before land interaction 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYG Jacob Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 51 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Hispaniola used to be shredzilla for storms but recently they’ve become immune to it. Franklins circulation looks better defined now than at any point before land interaction Nothing to shred apart when a storm begins its passage as a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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