bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, JTA66 said: This. I understand there is no scientific correlation, but it "seems" whenever we hit a string of 90's in April, the following summers are tolerable (1976, 2009). I wouldn't call this a "cool" summer (speaking strictly imby), I would call it seasonably warm. Uncomfortable too with the high dews. Plus I've only been under one heat advisory so far (unlike our "hot" summers where we can go a week or more under excessive heat warnings). Areas to our north will have only the 2nd time on record with the warmest temperature of the year occurring in April. There were a few ties. But our area didn’t get warm enough back in April to pull it off. Monthly Highest Max Temperature for Hartford Area, CT (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Season 2023 96 88 94 93 88 M 96 1976 96 86 93 92 93 88 96 2002 95 87 94 98 99 91 99 2009 94 89 86 88 94 84 94 1990 94 81 91 95 93 87 95 1962 94 94 91 94 90 86 94 Monthly Highest Max Temperature for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Season 2002 97 90 96 100 100 91 100 1990 94 83 92 98 93 91 98 2023 93 90 91 96 90 M 96 2009 93 87 89 91 95 86 95 1976 93 83 93 91 93 89 93 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 too cloudy for many 90 degree readings today... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: City probably won't today Too much cloudcover and the cold front is moving in quickly. Central Park will probably top out at about 86. WX/PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Newark will hit 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksCO_PA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, lee59 said: Newark will hit 90. & the sun rises in the east.... 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, winterwarlock said: 1986 even better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Wxoutlooksblog said: Too much cloudcover and the cold front is moving in quickly. Central Park will probably top out at about 86. WX/PT Still have a shot at 90. Sun broke through in last hour. We'll see. WX/PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 Current temp 90/DP 70/RH 53% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Cloudy 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 15 hours ago, Roger Smith said: I recall 602 dm from around July 1995 and of course then there's July 1936 before upper air soundings. Want to bet it stayed below 603 dm with 120F readings on several occasions? Maybe those are just August records? It was only in reference to the Topeka sounding which set a new record for that upper air station. https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=TOP&issuedby=TOP&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1 Our H5 height yesterday evening was 603 dm, the highest legitimate value ever observed in a sounding here at TOP.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2PM Roundup ACY: 91 PHL: 90 EWR: 89 (90) BLM: 89 New Brnswck: 88 JFK: 87 TEB: 86 LGA: 86 ISP: 86 TTN: 85 NYC: 85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, BucksCO_PA said: & the sun rises in the east.... Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, nycwinter said: i think i saw it on tv if we do not hit 90 in august it would be the first time in central park since the 1990's Coolest met summer since 2009 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 88/71 right now, hit 89. Feels like summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 74.8 11 2022 76.7 0 2021 75.9 0 2020 76.9 0 2019 75.6 0 2018 75.8 0 2017 74.3 0 2016 76.7 0 2015 76.3 0 2014 74.4 0 2013 75.7 0 2012 75.5 0 2011 75.9 0 2010 77.8 0 2009 72.0 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 76.4 11 2022 79.2 0 2021 78.3 0 2020 77.6 0 2019 76.5 0 2018 76.5 0 2017 74.7 0 2016 77.6 0 2015 76.6 0 2014 74.8 0 2013 76.3 0 2012 76.9 0 2011 78.0 0 2010 78.7 0 2009 73.5 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1958 67.5 0 2 1947 67.8 0 3 1982 67.9 0 4 1940 68.5 0 5 1972 68.8 0 6 2009 68.9 0 - 1955 68.9 0 7 1936 69.1 0 8 1935 69.2 0 9 2003 69.3 0 - 1985 69.3 0 - 1979 69.3 0 10 1948 69.4 0 - 1946 69.4 0 - 1932 69.4 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1956 73.1 0 2 2000 73.7 0 3 1996 73.8 0 - 1962 73.8 0 - 1933 73.8 0 4 2001 74.1 0 - 1945 74.1 0 5 1969 74.2 0 - 1967 74.2 0 6 2009 74.3 0 7 1940 74.5 0 8 1932 74.7 0 9 1939 74.8 0 10 1976 74.9 0 - 1960 74.9 0 - 1946 74.9 0 - 1936 74.9 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31 Missing Count 1 1940-07-31 71.5 0 2 2009-07-31 71.6 0 3 1947-07-31 71.7 0 4 1936-07-31 72.0 0 5 1932-07-31 72.1 0 6 1958-07-31 72.2 0 - 1946-07-31 72.2 0 7 1945-07-31 72.4 0 8 1956-07-31 72.5 0 - 1938-07-31 72.5 0 9 1933-07-31 72.6 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 2017 was cooler here. About even with 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Gotta feel sorry for the folks out in the central U.S. Heat indexes 115-120 in spots! Nasty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, bluewave said: Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 74.8 11 2022 76.7 0 2021 75.9 0 2020 76.9 0 2019 75.6 0 2018 75.8 0 2017 74.3 0 2016 76.7 0 2015 76.3 0 2014 74.4 0 2013 75.7 0 2012 75.5 0 2011 75.9 0 2010 77.8 0 2009 72.0 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 76.4 11 2022 79.2 0 2021 78.3 0 2020 77.6 0 2019 76.5 0 2018 76.5 0 2017 74.7 0 2016 77.6 0 2015 76.6 0 2014 74.8 0 2013 76.3 0 2012 76.9 0 2011 78.0 0 2010 78.7 0 2009 73.5 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1958 67.5 0 2 1947 67.8 0 3 1982 67.9 0 4 1940 68.5 0 5 1972 68.8 0 6 2009 68.9 0 - 1955 68.9 0 7 1936 69.1 0 8 1935 69.2 0 9 2003 69.3 0 - 1985 69.3 0 - 1979 69.3 0 10 1948 69.4 0 - 1946 69.4 0 - 1932 69.4 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1956 73.1 0 2 2000 73.7 0 3 1996 73.8 0 - 1962 73.8 0 - 1933 73.8 0 4 2001 74.1 0 - 1945 74.1 0 5 1969 74.2 0 - 1967 74.2 0 6 2009 74.3 0 7 1940 74.5 0 8 1932 74.7 0 9 1939 74.8 0 10 1976 74.9 0 - 1960 74.9 0 - 1946 74.9 0 - 1936 74.9 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31 Missing Count 1 1940-07-31 71.5 0 2 2009-07-31 71.6 0 3 1947-07-31 71.7 0 4 1936-07-31 72.0 0 5 1932-07-31 72.1 0 6 1958-07-31 72.2 0 - 1946-07-31 72.2 0 7 1945-07-31 72.4 0 8 1956-07-31 72.5 0 - 1938-07-31 72.5 0 9 1933-07-31 72.6 0 Sorry for phl it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, MANDA said: Gotta feel sorry for the folks out in the central U.S. Heat indexes 115-120 in spots! Nasty stuff. Some places in Iowa have dewpoints in the low 90s! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Some places in Iowa have dewpoints in the low 90s! Evapotranspiration a.k.a. "corn sweat" in high gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 let's cut everything down and plant corn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Sorry for phl it was Philly is closer to 2014 so far than 2009. Plus 2009 wasn’t as cold in Philly as it was in our area. Newark had its 2nd coldest June and July average while Philly was only 13th coolest since 1931. Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 20 Missing Count 2023-08-20 75.8 0 2022-08-20 79.0 0 2021-08-20 77.4 0 2020-08-20 78.4 0 2019-08-20 78.0 0 2018-08-20 76.8 0 2017-08-20 76.9 0 2016-08-20 78.8 0 2015-08-20 77.7 0 2014-08-20 75.9 0 2013-08-20 76.7 0 2012-08-20 78.0 0 2011-08-20 78.6 0 2010-08-20 80.1 0 2009-08-20 74.8 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 91/65 split here, currently 85. I don’t get the 2009 comparisons, that summer felt cooler, cloudier, and wetter than 2023 from what I can remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. Yeah, warm spots like Newark will easily fall below the 33 average number of 90° days since 2010. Today was only the 23rd day to reach 90° at Newark. Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Season Mean 0 2 5 15 8 3 0 33 2023 2 1 1 14 5 M M 23 2022 0 4 6 20 18 1 0 49 2021 0 4 12 11 13 1 0 41 2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31 2019 0 1 4 14 4 3 1 27 2018 0 4 5 9 14 4 0 36 2017 0 3 5 9 2 3 0 22 2016 0 3 3 16 13 5 0 40 2015 0 2 4 11 13 5 0 35 2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15 2013 0 2 4 15 3 1 0 25 2012 0 2 6 16 7 2 0 33 2011 0 1 4 22 4 0 0 31 2010 1 2 13 21 11 6 0 54 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 you can already feel the dimishing effects of the lowering sun angle..in another month it will everyday hoodie season happening.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Yeah I think people are over-blowing how cool this summer has been. Is it as bad as some recent years? No, but you'd think we're in a mini ice age over here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. Of course as soon as I post that the GFS torches us again. However meaningful heat in the medium-long term has been failing to materialize. We only got 1 day of heat out of this ridging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: Yeah I think people are over-blowing how cool this summer has been. Is it as bad as some recent years? No, but you'd think we're in a mini ice age over here. It just feels cooler relative to the extreme heat of recent summers. But nothing noteworthy like 2009 was. We’ll take what we can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 88° high today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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