Stormlover74 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yeah as I said yesterday, this is the best the grass has looked in August in a long time. Incredible how fast it's growing. What a difference from June when it was burning out. Yeah not even the usual brown spots, of course I'm pulling weeds like crazy too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemwinder Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Yup. .95 overnight with some loud thunder. Grass is very green Got the same here. Just over an inch, with an occasional loud clap of thunder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Heat has no staying power here. Very brief warmer interludes Forky must be devastated PREDICTION: September will roast us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: PREDICTION: September will roast us Probably but with low humidity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Heat has no staying power here. Very brief warmer interludes Forky must be devastated not as devastated as you will be when january is +7. also how did we get a top ten warm july if heat has no staying power 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1.04 inches of rain here last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, forkyfork said: not as devastated as you will be when january is +7. also how did we get a top ten warm july if heat has no staying power Because the warm overnight lows with high DPs skewed temps, that's how. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Mailman Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 .8 this morning and it came down fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Because the warm overnight lows with high DPs skewed temps, that's how. you can apply that logic to any month that doesn't finish at exactly 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 if we didn't have those above normal data points the month wouldn't have been above normal 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 47 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Because the warm overnight lows with high DPs skewed temps, that's how. Yup, being the 4th warmest all time for overnight lows does that. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, FPizz said: Yup, being the 4th warmest all time for overnight lows does that. . does that mean it's not a top ten warm month? temperatures don't count after the sun sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Sun now and 82 / 60. Drier air working in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, forkyfork said: does that mean it's not a top ten warm month? temperatures don't count after the sun sets? Yeah, how posters evaluate what constitutes a hot summer or good winter is very subjective. Some people only consider a high number of 90s or several 100° days hot like we had last summer. Even though the record dewpoints made it feel like we had a higher number of 90° days. Plus June and August didn’t have much in the way of heat compared to some recent years. Winter ratings can be even more tricky. I actually enjoyed the 15-16 winter more than the 14-15. Even though we averaged over 40° with a +13 December, the January record snowstorm jackpot near 30” in NYC Metro was more impressive to me. It made up for the model error with the January 2015 event going further east. Plus that big event was more memorable than several smaller to moderate events the previous winter. The NYC below 0° fans finally got their due on Valentine’s Day. Even with the 2nd coldest February the year before, the NYC temperature couldn’t fall below 0° like it did during the much warmer 15-16 winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: not as devastated as you will be when january is +7. also how did we get a top ten warm july if heat has no staying power one of the coolest summers in recent memory and very wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, qg_omega said: one of the coolest summers in recent memory and very wet. On par with 2017 and 2014 for Long Island but well above a really cool summer like 2009. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 17 Missing Count 2023-08-17 72.7 0 2022-08-17 74.1 0 2021-08-17 73.1 0 2020-08-17 74.7 0 2019-08-17 74.1 0 2018-08-17 73.4 0 2017-08-17 72.3 0 2016-08-17 74.1 0 2015-08-17 72.8 0 2014-08-17 72.8 0 2013-08-17 73.5 0 2012-08-17 73.5 0 2011-08-17 74.3 0 2010-08-17 75.1 0 2009-08-17 69.5 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, qg_omega said: one of the coolest summers in recent memory and very wet. "in recent memory" is doing a lot of heavy lifting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, forkyfork said: "in recent memory" is doing a lot of heavy lifting yes new normal is record hot every month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, forkyfork said: "in recent memory" is doing a lot of heavy lifting It's one of the coolest top 10 warmest summers of all time. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, forkyfork said: you can apply that logic to any month that doesn't finish at exactly 0 Those high DPS in January did us in last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Rjay said: It's one of the coolest top 10 warmest summers of all time. Einstein was right. It’s all relative. . A 14th warmest summer average temperature at Islip so far feels much cooler than all the top 5 warm recent years. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 17 Missing Count 1 2010-08-17 75.1 0 - 1999-08-17 75.1 0 3 2020-08-17 74.7 0 4 2011-08-17 74.3 0 5 2022-08-17 74.1 0 - 2019-08-17 74.1 0 - 2016-08-17 74.1 0 6 1994-08-17 73.6 0 7 2013-08-17 73.5 0 - 2012-08-17 73.5 0 - 2008-08-17 73.5 0 8 2018-08-17 73.4 0 9 2005-08-17 73.3 0 - 1988-08-17 73.3 0 10 2006-08-17 73.2 0 - 1991-08-17 73.2 0 - 1966-08-17 73.2 0 11 2021-08-17 73.1 0 12 2002-08-17 73.0 0 - 1995-08-17 73.0 0 13 2015-08-17 72.8 0 - 2014-08-17 72.8 0 - 1980-08-17 72.8 0 14 2023-08-17 72.7 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 6 hours ago, winterwx21 said: Yep Allsnow got a lot of rain but we just missed it. Only .13 here. Like you said it's no big deal since we've had plenty of rain. Looking forward to the beautiful weekend with very low humidity. One rare hot day on monday, and then more beautiful low humidity weather with temps only in the low 80s tuesday through thursday. What an August we're having. The best August that I can remember. Beautiful weekends, lots of nice weekdays, just enough rain mixed in and a couple of great thunderstorms depending where you are. Seems like the next week will be more of the same, perfect for outdoor activities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: Einstein was right. It’s all relative. . A 14th warmest summer average temperature at Islip so far feels much cooler than all the top 5 warm recent years. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 17 Missing Count 1 2010-08-17 75.1 0 - 1999-08-17 75.1 0 3 2020-08-17 74.7 0 4 2011-08-17 74.3 0 5 2022-08-17 74.1 0 - 2019-08-17 74.1 0 - 2016-08-17 74.1 0 6 1994-08-17 73.6 0 7 2013-08-17 73.5 0 - 2012-08-17 73.5 0 - 2008-08-17 73.5 0 8 2018-08-17 73.4 0 9 2005-08-17 73.3 0 - 1988-08-17 73.3 0 10 2006-08-17 73.2 0 - 1991-08-17 73.2 0 - 1966-08-17 73.2 0 11 2021-08-17 73.1 0 12 2002-08-17 73.0 0 - 1995-08-17 73.0 0 13 2015-08-17 72.8 0 - 2014-08-17 72.8 0 - 1980-08-17 72.8 0 14 2023-08-17 72.7 0 this year should be in the bottom half with other nino onset seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: this year should be in the bottom half with other nino onset seasons august 1997 at ewr was -2.8. august 1982 was -3.9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, forkyfork said: this year should be in the bottom half with other nino onset seasons The planet has warmed so much since those top 10 coolest El Niño onset summers of days past. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 17 Missing Count 1 1964-08-17 68.6 0 2 1965-08-17 68.8 0 3 1992-08-17 69.0 0 4 1979-08-17 69.3 0 - 1972-08-17 69.3 0 5 2009-08-17 69.5 0 6 1982-08-17 69.6 0 - 1968-08-17 69.6 0 7 1978-08-17 69.8 0 8 1996-08-17 69.9 0 9 2004-08-17 70.0 0 10 1985-08-17 70.2 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, qg_omega said: yes new normal is record hot every month not even the daily temperature trace is a smooth line. why would you expect that on a climatological scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 We normalize the record warmth fairly quickly. So when we have temperatures cooler than those years, it feels cooler relative to the warmer years. It’s one of the reasons that climate change doesn’t interest as many people compared to other issues. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190225170252.htm Tweets tell scientists how quickly we normalize unusual weather Study: 'Remarkable' weather becomes normal within a few years Date: February 25, 2019 Source: University of California - Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, bluewave said: We normalize the record warmth fairly quickly. So when we have temperatures cooler than those years, it feels cooler relative to the warmer years. It’s one of the reasons that climate change doesn’t interest as many people compared to other issues. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190225170252.htm Tweets tell scientists how quickly we normalize unusual weather Study: 'Remarkable' weather becomes normal within a few years Date: February 25, 2019 Source: University of California - Davis that's true but this board supposedly has people who pay attention to weather stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, forkyfork said: that's true but this board supposedly has people who pay attention to weather stats This is a great place for weather stats. But much of the world doesn’t pay attention to the details like we do here. So people rapidly normalize a changing climate and miss the perspective and context of the changes. Plus the migration patterns in the US are toward warmer climates. So many are fine with mild and snowless winters and would be happier if they lived year round in places like Florida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Einstein was right. It’s all relative. . A 14th warmest summer average temperature at Islip so far feels much cooler than all the top 5 warm recent years. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 17 Missing Count 1 2010-08-17 75.1 0 - 1999-08-17 75.1 0 3 2020-08-17 74.7 0 4 2011-08-17 74.3 0 5 2022-08-17 74.1 0 - 2019-08-17 74.1 0 - 2016-08-17 74.1 0 6 1994-08-17 73.6 0 7 2013-08-17 73.5 0 - 2012-08-17 73.5 0 - 2008-08-17 73.5 0 8 2018-08-17 73.4 0 9 2005-08-17 73.3 0 - 1988-08-17 73.3 0 10 2006-08-17 73.2 0 - 1991-08-17 73.2 0 - 1966-08-17 73.2 0 11 2021-08-17 73.1 0 12 2002-08-17 73.0 0 - 1995-08-17 73.0 0 13 2015-08-17 72.8 0 - 2014-08-17 72.8 0 - 1980-08-17 72.8 0 14 2023-08-17 72.7 0 24th warmest summer by year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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