mreaves Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: My favorite vid wow I know Paul Bean. His grandfather owned a Chevy dealership and was member at the golf course I played at. Good kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Do most of you Vermonters have flood insurance? Regular homeowners doesn't usually cover flood damage. Manu people are going to be faced with fixing their homes out-of pocket if they didn't have flood insurance. Also, it's probably going to be impossible to find contractors to fix a lot of this stuff up. Imagine how many electricians, drywall installers, carpenters, etc are going to be needed to fix/check all these flooded homes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, BrianW said: Do most of you Vermonters have flood insurance? Regular homeowners doesn't usually cover flood damage. Manu people are going to be faced with fixing their homes out-of pocket if they didn't have flood insurance. Also, it's probably going to be impossible to find contractors to fix a lot of this stuff up. Imagine how many electricians, drywall installers, carpenters, etc are going to be needed to fix/check all these flooded homes. I'd say its probably in line with elsewhere. I don't but I'm nowhere near a flood zone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, eyewall said: Second highest crest of all time (Number 1 is 1927 which was monumental at this location) Does anyone know if it’s normal for this location to plateau like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Does anyone know if it’s normal for this location to plateau like that? Not sure. I think there may be an issue with the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 hours ago, tunafish said: Just awful. Stating the obvious here but the recovery efforts are going to be $$$ and last for months. Vermont's topography and the fact that most towns are settled along the rivers in the valley make it a "perfect" candidate for significant flooding. The water just has nowhere to go. And it's not like these are people building new multi-million dollar homes along the floodplains of prime hurricane country. These are hundreds of years old settlements. That is to say, you can't fault anyone for the losses they're experiencing. It is also a huge environmental disaster. There will be thousands of tons of waste and refuse that needs to be dealt with plus all of the toxins that were washed into the rivers and waterways and deposited elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, eyewall said: Not sure. I think there may be an issue with the gauge. I just checked Google earth and see there’s a dam there but not sure where the gauge is. I’ve seen it down here with a gauge on the Wallkill that will do that due to dams upstream. It’s just odd that the forecast had it dropping so I was wondering if the gauge was having issues too but I’m not familiar with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: It is also a huge environmental disaster. There will be thousands of tons of waste and refuse that needs to be dealt with plus all of the toxins that were washed into the rivers and waterways and deposited elsewhere. Maybe avoid any seafood sourced from LI sound for awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 Well this could be bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 15 hours ago, powderfreak said: That’s the two feet above record crest right there. Johnson is in bad shape. That’s a lot of food gone to waste too. In 1987 there was 9 feet of water in the Gardiner Shop'n'Save (now Hannafords) and only the computers from the checkouts were saved. The $2.2 million loss was the single biggest chunk of the nearly $100 million damage from that event. (Perhaps 1/4 billion in 2023 dollars.) Vermont damage will likely be in the same general vicinity, I fear. (On the 1-year anniversary, the manager and crew "celebrated" the repairs, with butcher paper up on the walls with a wavy blue line showing the water level, continuous video of manager and another canoeing up and down the aisles amid the floating tater-chip bags, and a small rowboat hanging from the ceiling with 3 dummies in it holding fishing poles. When all is lost, laugh.) It is also a huge environmental disaster. There will be thousands of tons of waste and refuse that needs to be dealt with plus all of the toxins that were washed into the rivers and waterways and deposited elsewhere. My son and I visited downtown Gardiner in the evening of 4/1/87, walking out on the RR tracks (which went 2-3 feet underwater by the next morning). Everything stunk of gasoline, likely from water entering stations' underground tanks and forcing out the contents. Lots of other garbage turned loose as well. We also saw what looked like the top of a tin-roof camp floating by. It was actually front end of a 40-foot trailer with the rear axles 20 feet under the surface. Folks upriver saw that thing crash into the low bridge in Augusta and get pulled under. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Lots o rocks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, mreaves said: I know Paul Bean. His grandfather owned a Chevy dealership and was member at the golf course I played at. Good kid. He has a nutcase Crazy conspiracy theory about weather, read down the comments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 18 hours ago, BrianW said: Sterling Market in Johnson. They've announced they are closed indefinitely. It doesn't sound like a sure thing they will reopen. The community needs that store. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 The 12Z model runs are concerning for the next 5 days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I don't like what the GFS is spitting out for qpf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, powderfreak said: They've announced they are closed indefinitely. It doesn't sound like a sure thing they will reopen. The community needs that store. That's the thing in these small towns, destroy the local market and its a long haul to get supplies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, dryslot said: I don't like what the GFS is spitting out for qpf. 12z GEFS are ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: 12z GEFS are ugly Almost exactly the same distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: 12z GEFS are ugly Pretty sad when i have to revert to these measures in my BY to offset the flooding rain water we've had, The way my yard slopes and with roof runoff that can't be displaced elsewhere, This is the only remedy that's inexpensive enough other then going all in on drainage. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Lurker Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 My favorite vid wow That's a pretty amazing video.Scrolled down a bit. That dude is nuts. literally subscribes to the Kevin Martin school of thought.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Flood watch issued for most of Vermont for tomorrow into Friday: https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=BTV&wwa=flood watch Flood Watch National Weather Service Burlington VT 1259 PM EDT Wed Jul 12 2023 NYZ028-031-034-035-VTZ003-004-006>011-016>021-130845- /O.NEW.KBTV.FA.A.0003.230713T1800Z-230714T0600Z/ /00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ Eastern Clinton-Western Clinton-Western Essex-Eastern Essex- Orleans-Essex-Lamoille-Caledonia-Washington-Western Addison- Orange-Western Rutland-Eastern Franklin-Eastern Chittenden- Eastern Addison-Eastern Rutland-Western Windsor-Eastern Windsor- Including the cities of Champlain, Plattsburgh, Dannemora, Ellenburg, Lake Placid, Newcomb, Port Henry, Ticonderoga, Derby, Newport, Island Pond, Lunenburg, Johnson, Stowe, Hardwick, St. Johnsbury, Montpelier, Waitsfield, Middlebury, Vergennes, Bradford, Randolph, Fair Haven, Rutland, Enosburg Falls, Richford, Richmond, Underhill, Bristol, Ripton, East Wallingford, Killington, Bethel, Ludlow, Springfield, and White River Junction 1259 PM EDT Wed Jul 12 2023 ...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT... * WHAT...Flash flooding caused by excessive rainfall is possible. * WHERE...In Vermont... Most of central and northern Vermont except Grand Isle, Western Chittenden, and Western Franklin Counties. In New York... Essex and Clinton Counties. * WHEN...From Thursday afternoon through late Thursday night. * IMPACTS...Excessive runoff may result in flash flooding, especially along river and streams and in low-lying and flood-prone locations. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS... - Additional rainfall is expected Thursday afternoon as a line of strong thunderstorms moves through. Rivers and streams are already running high and any additional rainfall will go straight to run-off in areas that have recently flooded. Additional forecast rainfall amounts for Thursday afternoon are 1 to 1.5 inches, locally up to 2 inches in the heaviest storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Have multiple flooding events like this happened before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 hours ago, mreaves said: I know Paul Bean. His grandfather owned a Chevy dealership and was member at the golf course I played at. Good kid. Good kid but a complete nut job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, TalcottWx said: Have multiple flooding events like this happened before? May/June 2006. March 2010. Also we had some events in late June 98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Good kid but a complete nut job. Kevin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, TalcottWx said: Have multiple flooding events like this happened before? Connecticut River at Thompsonville CT hit 17.8 feet on August 30, 2011. Ten days later on September 9 it reached 16 feet: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Saw this one from Orleans, VT from Monday. Nice little slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 One of my team members has family in Londonderry VT. The river almost came to their house, but luckily OK. Lots of damage pics though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Brewbeer said: Connecticut River at Thompsonville CT hit 17.8 feet on August 30, 2011. Ten days later on September 9 it reached 16 feet: Seems like this is in closer succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, TalcottWx said: Seems like this is in closer succession. Not sure if flooding is the issue later tomorrow and Friday, but could be on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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