ORH_wxman Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I don't pay as close attention to the temp idiosyncrasies wrt the NWS sites as you folk but it seems to me just over the years in general, that site has difficulty getting to 90 anyway. I mean not impossible, just that the 1000k/sigma elevation takes the 50 mb slope off the bottom of the sounding. I bet down town by the convention center it's over 90 Yeah they only average about 2-3 90F per year. Some years they fail to hit it (last occurrence in 2014....though 2015 almost pulled it off too until a September 90-burger) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 90/71, From days and days of rain to an inferno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I don't pay as close attention to the temp idiosyncrasies wrt the NWS sites as you folk but it seems to me just over the years in general, that site has difficulty getting to 90 anyway. I mean not impossible, just that the 1000k/sigma elevation takes the 50 mb slope off the bottom of the sounding. I bet down town by the convention center it's over 90 Yeah I love ORH too for displaying what being on a hilltop vs valley at the same elevation means. Up this way you can hit 90F to 1500ft a few times because it’s low terrain relatively. 1000ft around here vs 1000 at ORH is definitely completely different climo. Radiate and torch, vs the hilltop version of the same elevation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Gonna be some bangers today and mash? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 Boston Light's up to 70 F ... S.C. buoys also near +- 70 F SST. That's a fast recovery in the past 2 weeks, right ? I could have swore we were held up in the low 60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Looks like a prolonged stretch of extreme heat across the Southwest and interior California coming up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 88.6° may do it here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Boston Light's up to 70 F ... S.C. buoys also near +- 70 F SST. That's a fast recovery in the past 2 weeks, right ? I could have swore we were held up in the low 60s There is a diurnal cycle I've noticed especially with BOS light, but yeah real quick. Was in low 60s I think last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Boston Light's up to 70 F ... S.C. buoys also near +- 70 F SST. That's a fast recovery in the past 2 weeks, right ? I could have swore we were held up in the low 60s Although north of P-Town water is 64F and the buoys well SE of ACK are in the 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Although north of P-Town water is 64F and it tickles my fanny nicely Fascinating 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saguaro Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Definitely a summer feel out there today and plenty of sun. IZG dewpoint bouncing all over the place, currently at 62. SFM's is at 73. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Looks like a prolonged stretch of extreme heat across the Southwest and interior California coming up I wouldn't trust the spatial layout so much ... Have to keep in mind ... especially beyond D7's ...the noise of 31 members or more tends to artifact that flow into a perennial layout, which features a modest ridge in the west and a flattish trough in the east - as a basal state. Throw in July's thermal component and that "tugs" ( for lack of better word) the member-mean too far west. But, by the time the D10 to 13 is say, D5 and we still end up with occasional ridge nodes neat St Louis, as well as sometimes WAR's for a reason. The noise masks the individual members that would have been right about heat expulsion east - cast in point, this 12z operational "member" at 300 hours ...bullshit by virtue of range, but it's definitely decoupled from the GEFs mean noise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 ACK 73 and fog . Headed there next week . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I love ORH too for displaying what being on a hilltop vs valley at the same elevation means. Up this way you can hit 90F to 1500ft a few times because it’s low terrain relatively. 1000ft around here vs 1000 at ORH is definitely completely different climo. Radiate and torch, vs the hilltop version of the same elevation. That's one reason I'm annoyed they haven't fixed the sensor there yet...it's always a great proxy to use for the type of airmass we are in. Like when ORH hits 90F, it's a pretty legit hot airmass....when they start going 93-94F, it's a "high end" heat wave. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I wouldn't trust the spatial layout so much ... Have to keep in mind ... especially beyond D7's ...the noise of 31 members or more tends to artifact that flow into a perennial layout, which features a modest ridge in the west and a flattish trough in the east - as a basal state. Throw in July's thermal component and that "tugs" ( for lack of better word) the member-mean too far west. But we take the D10 to 13 range and we still end up with ridge nodes neat St Louis, as well as sometimes WAR's for a reason. The noise masks the individual members that would have been right about heat expulsion east - cast in point, this 12z operational "member" Well this goes perfectly with my previous post with the lapse rates but this is one synoptic look that makes your mouth water in terms of severe potential. Too bad its so far out there. but if you ever wanted to show someone what a favorable synoptic pattern looks like for some bigger severe here...this would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I have tickets to go up to Story Land on Monday. I bought them a month ago, along with a non-refundable hotel room - so naturally the weather looks like puke up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said: I have tickets to go up to Story Land on Monday. I bought them a month ago, along with a non-refundable hotel room - so naturally the weather looks like puke up there. Ugh...that's the worst. We take our kids every year but keep flexible....usually pick the nicest weekday during out of our vacation in adjacent western Maine to drive over and spend the day. Although maybe you can luck out where the rain is delayed a bit or more spotty....we had a day like that one year and the threat of scared off all the crowds, and we basically had the park with no lines or very short lines. It was great. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Nice little cell formed around Smithfield RI, looks like some outflow boundaries in the area; Seabreeze off the Bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Dew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Dews may not drop below 68 until mid-December 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, SouthCoastMA said: I have tickets to go up to Story Land on Monday. I bought them a month ago, along with a non-refundable hotel room - so naturally the weather looks like puke up there. That sucks dude. But welcome to the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, weatherwiz said: Well this goes perfectly with my previous post with the lapse rates but this is one synoptic look that makes your mouth water in terms of severe potential. Too bad its so far out there. but if you ever wanted to show someone what a favorable synoptic pattern looks like for some bigger severe here...this would be it. I have to learn how to forecast lapse rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: I have to learn how to forecast lapse rates. What are you looking to know/understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: What are you looking to know/understand? For the purposes of today at least (I’m in the Denver area) if there’s a way to determine the threshold llvl lapse rate to overcome a cap for the explosive convective initiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 minute ago, WxWatcher007 said: For the purposes of today at least (I’m in the Denver area) if there’s a way to determine the threshold llvl lapse rate to overcome a cap for the explosive convective initiation. Looks like the convective temperature was around 80 or so. If the convective temp can be reached, there should be some explosive supercells around that area. Wouldn't be much to prevent parcels from reaching the LFC (though it does seem on the higher side...but I'm also not entirely familiar with convection in the Inter-mountain West). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 76/71 now after a brief shower passed through. Swampy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: There is a diurnal cycle I've noticed especially with BOS light, but yeah real quick. Was in low 60s I think last week. Diurnal or tidal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Looks like I maxed out at 89.3F although I saw 90-94 on car thermo driving around April was hotter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Nice downpour over east Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Diurnal or tidal? Seems diurnal to me. It’s the sun warming the top ocean. See it every day starting in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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