78Blizzard Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 The high here yesterday was 87, today 86. Now 85. I notice that the GFS is still warm biased, at least at this location. Yesterday's 12z GFS run had a high here of 93 yesterday, and the 18z run had a high of 95 today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Check this, but I'm pretty sure we feel hot air differently. That's a heat source sink relationship. Hot doesn't bleed off to hot as quickly as it does to cold. So that is detected through biological nerves somehow interacting with conduction with the surrounding air. Basically ...air that is already hot is limiting the heat escaping from our person. There may be some 2ndary infrared responses, if say the gas ( air ) gets so hot that it starts radiating in the infrared at a high enough registry. Anyway, infrared is a measure of electromagnet frequency, which humans can sense within a certain bandwidths... like, infrared, through the visible range of the spectrum. However, it's a different energy state; I'm not sure it can be included into the same (ambient kinetic temperature + saturation) gaining up on the ability of the human body to radiate its own heat away...with out first may converting it to post-conduction heat that is gain, and then adding it. Yes. A thousand times yes. How do I know? My wife. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Go Kart Mozart said: Wiz, are you gonna fire up a thread for tomorrow? According to Upton, 2,500 j/kg of CAPE, yowza! Yeah I probably will. All in all I think it will be rather similar to yesterday, but with lower tornado potential. Should be good lightning producers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBudMan Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Yeah I probably will. All in all I think it will be rather similar to yesterday, but with lower tornado potential. Should be good lightning producers. kiss of death ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Two rounds tomorrow. Big storms AM with huge lightning and big winds PM 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Big storms AM with huge lightning and big winds PM You could write for CNN to sensationalize weather. Big storms, with huge lightning… the biggest lightning this planet has ever seen. Just massive bolts. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, dendrite said: Not off hand but those equations are complicated and there’s some disagreement about how the variables are all factored in to come up with an estimate. All of these indices are just estimates. The wind chill one was wrong for decades as well. I preferred the old one, so I could brag up the -101 at our Fort Kent home on Jan 18, 1982. The -72 from the new one lacks cachet. Nice peak of summer day here, mid-upper 60s dews and mid 80s, nothing spectacular. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Nice summer evening. Pleasant breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Hopefully the bunnies made it through this raging heater okay 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Hopefully the bunnies made it through this raging heater okay He’s in a tough place for big heat and big winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: You could write for CNN to sensationalize weather. Big storms, with huge lightning… the biggest lightning this planet has ever seen. Just massive bolts. Who watches CNN? I mean honestly? As unAmerican as it gets . 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: He’s in a tough place for big heat and big winter. Love my area. Average 60” a winter , max out dews being at elevation and in woods, always in the thunderstorm zone and don’t get too cool on summer nights . The only negative is on screaming sou Easter’s which torch this area on snow pack. This area is in every way shape and form 100x better than S Wey ocean climate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Love my area. Average 60” a winter , max out dews being at elevation and in woods, always in the thunderstorm zone and don’t get too cool on summer nights . The only negative is on screaming sou Easter’s which torch this area on snow pack. This area is in every way shape and form 100x better than S Wey ocean climate I do like your elevation (990'?), but aren't your biggest snow storms usually like 14"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Who watches CNN? I mean honestly? As unAmerican as it gets . People at the airport, unwittingly 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Who watches CNN? I mean honestly? As unAmerican as it gets . I guess you missed the disco this morning about sensationalizing weather… honestly every single news source in the US is a dumpster fire pandering to their customer base. A singular event happens and everyone already knows what slant each station will cover it with, so what’s the point. Wish we had a BBC, less opinions and more news. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Love my area. Average 60” a winter , max out dews being at elevation and in woods, always in the thunderstorm zone and don’t get too cool on summer nights . The only negative is on screaming sou Easter’s which torch this area on snow pack. This area is in every way shape and form 100x better than S Wey ocean climate Pretty mundane and safe area for hazardous weather. I had two microbursts the last 2 years. Also that cat 1 in October 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said: I do like your elevation (990'?), but aren't your biggest snow storms usually like 14"? It’s definitely no “ try that in Hubbardston “ here . But it’s a good snow spot. Far enough East to cash in on late development and Miller B’s.. far enough N & W to avoid ocean taint and warm rains on borderline scenarios .. and occasionally get lucky on big elevation events. I get big winds here in SE screamers and NW wind events .. and it’s a good tstorm spot. Not necessarily for severe, but it’s typically very active for convection. I can get some decent icing and occasionally get lucky with a legit icestorm while areas 2 or 300 feet lower down get little as we saw this past winter. It’s not perfect at all .. but it’s a pretty good area for an extreme wx lover like myself. I like society and people and am not the kind of person that wants to live isolated and socially inept. It’s fairly rural , but I can be anywhere in a relatively short drive . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Just now, CoastalWx said: Pretty mundane and safe area for hazardous weather. I had two microbursts the last 2 years. Do dews really max out at elevation? I guess I don’t follow how dews are higher the further up you go. RH is higher but are the actual dews increasing with height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 We tried to tell em’ when they called weeks of COC . So dangerous to forecast using charts. Warmer and more humid with showers and thunderstorms returning late in the week. A few strong storms possible Friday. Dewpoints will steadily rise, reaching sultry levels again...near or above 70.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Pretty mundane and safe area for hazardous weather. I had two microbursts the last 2 years. Also that cat 1 in October 2021. What a storm that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 we Bringin sultry Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Do dews really max out at elevation? I guess I don’t follow how dews are higher the further up you go. RH is higher but are the actual dews increasing with height? It’s fake science. Dews actually decrease with elevation, just not as steep as temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, powderfreak said: I guess you missed the disco this morning about sensationalizing weather… honestly every single news source in the US is a dumpster fire pandering to their customer base. A singular event happens and everyone already knows what slant each station will cover it with, so what’s the point. Wish we had a BBC, less opinions and more news. Politics has even begun to enter the realm of science in some areas . Anywhere profit is possible and politics intersects you can take the science preached behind it and really you can ...take it fully at its word if it comforts you to hold your belief system together instead of the annoying option of losing that compass of knowledge Or realizing it’s now subject to shadiness . It always retains some truth but the devil is in the spin/ details 79f 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 F****** mosquitoes are unreal! Thanks for all the rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 50 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Pretty mundane and safe area for hazardous weather. I had two microbursts the last 2 years. Also that cat 1 in October 2021. Tolland is just a very safe place fortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 HVN seems SUS to me. Even warmer than BDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It’s fake science. Dews actually decrease with elevation, just not as steep as temps. Yeah that’s what I thought and the soundings show. RH though does increase with height, as the temp falls faster than the dew with height. I think some mistake dews for relative humidity… if the valley is 32% but say a hilltop is 40%, it doesn’t mean the dew is higher up there. The low level temp lapse rate is steeper and causing the increase in RH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I forget what the rate of Dewpoint decrease is. Isn’t about 2C per km past the LCL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Politics has even begun to enter the realm of science in some areas . Anywhere profit is possible and politics intersects you can take the science preached behind it and really you can ...take it fully at its word if it comforts you to hold your belief system together instead of the annoying option of losing that compass of knowledge Or realizing it’s now subject to shadiness . It always retains some truth but the devil is in the spin/ details 79f It’s getting to the point where the tell-tale sign of someone in too deep or too far gone is that they cannot see, recognize or acknowledge the bias in their preferred media, news, science, people telling them how to live their lives… folks look at it like a team sport and follow that compass blindly. That’s how we go down this societal path. 72/66… last day in the period. Front comes through here with dropping dews around midday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 BOS hit 90 today. If it makes it tomorrow it will be a 3 day heatwave fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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